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-- Posted by utheh at 3:58 pm on July 10, 2009
Alot of people have imaginary friends.
-- Posted by S0LITUDE at 3:59 pm on July 10, 2009
after five there might be a problem stupid livewire ad. There's no god, stop trying to convert all of them damn atheists
-- Posted by Dont Notice Me at 3:59 pm on July 10, 2009
i like talking to myself
-- Posted by belizabeth at 3:59 pm on July 10, 2009
He is not imaginary.
-- Posted by TaliaBBy at 3:59 pm on July 10, 2009
Except it makes you look like a retard .
-- Posted by justaxdream at 3:59 pm on July 10, 2009
lol
-- Posted by DuBBy at 3:59 pm on July 10, 2009
i have imaginary cat
-- Posted by Descartes at 4:00 pm on July 10, 2009
My friends name is Ramen :P
-- Posted by macdog at 4:00 pm on July 10, 2009
haha win
-- Posted by Public Enemy 69 at 4:00 pm on July 10, 2009
OH ok.
-- Posted by SovSull at 4:00 pm on July 10, 2009
dtrm is leaking
-- Posted by utheh at 4:00 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from TaliaBBy at 4:59 pm on July 10, 2009
Except it makes you look like a retard .
aha WIN post
-- Posted by WAZ at 4:01 pm on July 10, 2009
God is the Santa of adulthood. You dought sometimes but you want to believe he exists.
-- Posted by Stormblazer at 4:06 pm on July 10, 2009
I prefer the argument that is ironically based in fideism. By it, faith and reason are completely different, and it makes a great basis for faith being a special type of coping mechanism. And honestly, I think it's the most valid reason for believing in God that I know of. (PS: Livewire's spellcheck is missing fideism and fideic both. Add this to the list: polyamory, polyfidelity, polychotomy, and others).
-- Posted by BleedingSteelWings at 4:07 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from belizabeth at 8:29 pm on July 10, 2009
He is not imaginary.
prove that it is God and not Brahman or Zeus
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 4:14 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from SovSull at 6:00 pm on July 10, 2009
dtrm is leaking
Maybe a first? I agree with you.
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 4:17 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from utheh at 5:58 pm on July 10, 2009
Alot of people have imaginary friends.
And a lot of people think they know so much more than anyone else.
-- Posted by Stormblazer at 4:23 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:14 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from SovSull at 6:00 pm on July 10, 2009
dtrm is leaking
Maybe a first? I agree with you. 
DTRM leaks a lot, it's just that mods don't always clean it up quickly.
-- Posted by Aristocrat at 4:26 pm on July 10, 2009
Typical atheist taking a cheap shot at the believers ironic. They think they are smart but when the day come we shall see who are indeed the real losers. At the moment enjoy the lolz and making fun at the believers.
-- Posted by BleedingSteelWings at 4:31 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Aristocrat at 8:56 pm on July 10, 2009
Typical atheist taking a cheap shot at the believers ironic. They think they are smart but when the day come we shall see who are indeed the real losers. At the moment enjoy the lolz and making fun at the believers. 
...Lol you think there's a rapture. rofl
-- Posted by SpM at 4:33 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 12:17 am on July 11, 2009
And a lot of people think they know so much more than anyone else. 
People who think they know who created the universe and why, the purpose of humanity, the absolute moral truth, and the nature of ultimate reality claim far more than those who think the aforementioned group are mistaken.
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 4:38 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from SpM at 6:33 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 12:17 am on July 11, 2009
And a lot of people think they know so much more than anyone else. 
People who think they know who created the universe and why, the purpose of humanity, the absolute moral truth, and the nature of ultimate reality claim far more than those who think the aforementioned group are mistaken.
You seem intent on picking a fight with me. Why is that? It matters not the number of claims made. Only the attitude of superiority expressed in the claims. The OP here is a fine example.
-- Posted by BleedingSteelWings at 4:39 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:08 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from SpM at 6:33 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 12:17 am on July 11, 2009
And a lot of people think they know so much more than anyone else. 
People who think they know who created the universe and why, the purpose of humanity, the absolute moral truth, and the nature of ultimate reality claim far more than those who think the aforementioned group are mistaken.
You seem intent on picking a fight with me. Why is that? It matters not the number of claims made. Only the attitude of superiority expressed in the claims. The OP here is a fine example. 
and you also.
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 4:47 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 6:39 pm on July 10, 2009
and you also. 
An explanation would help here...
-- Posted by BleedingSteelWings at 4:56 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:17 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 6:39 pm on July 10, 2009
and you also. 
An explanation would help here... 
picking a fight. and an attitude of superiority
-- Posted by SpM at 4:56 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 12:38 am on July 11, 2009
You seem intent on picking a fight with me. Why is that? 
It's entirely coincidental.
It matters not the number of claims made. Only the attitude of superiority expressed in the claims. The OP here is a fine example. 
Superiority and self-assurance can be more or less justified. In cases where one is probably right, it is fairly excusable. In cases where one's claims are wildly improbable, it is anything from laughable to intolerable. To say that a being whose existence is completely unsupported by empirical evidence is non-existent is to make a modest claim. To say that a being whose existence is completely unsupported by empirical evidence does exist is anything but modest, and claiming to know what this being has done in the past and wants in the future, and proclaiming that the fate of all existence, including our own illustrious species, is bound up inextricably in this tale is to make an extraordinary claim. The only reason your religion does not cause irrepressible laughter in all who come across it is the social conditioning which has rendered it seemingly plausible. Not that that means it's certainly false, of course. Just somewhat barmy and not to be advanced without due caution.
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 5:27 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from SpM at 6:56 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 12:38 am on July 11, 2009
It matters not the number of claims made. Only the attitude of superiority expressed in the claims. The OP here is a fine example. 
Superiority and self-assurance can be more or less justified. In cases where one is probably right, it is fairly excusable. In cases where one's claims are wildly improbable, it is anything from laughable to intolerable. To say that a being whose existence is completely unsupported by empirical evidence is non-existent is to make a modest claim. To say that a being whose existence is completely unsupported by empirical evidence does exist is anything but modest, and claiming to know what this being has done in the past and wants in the future, and proclaiming that the fate of all existence, including our own illustrious species, is bound up inextricably in this tale is to make an extraordinary claim. The only reason your religion does not cause irrepressible laughter in all who come across it is the social conditioning which has rendered it seemingly plausible. Not that that means it's certainly false, of course. Just somewhat barmy and not to be advanced without due caution. 
I'm totally self-assured, self-confident and self-aware. But I don't make topics that poke fun at those who I disagree with or who may disagree with me. The only claims I make are those of my belief. It doesn't bother me that you may disagree. What bothers me is that so many who do disagree, feel it makes them superior and me (and/or those who believe as I do), inferior. It does not make them right or even probably right. When you find that there is empirical evidence for everything you believe, then you can look down on those of faith. However, at that point you'll probably find you have lost all human qualities and values. If the only reason you suppress your laughter is because of social conditioning, please see a therapist to help you over that.
-- Posted by Moridin at 4:44 am on July 12, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 3:27 am on July 11, 2009
When you find that there is empirical evidence for everything you believe, then you can look down on those of faith. However, at that point you'll probably find you have lost all human qualities and values. 
So you are saying that reason and rationality is not even a value? How far can you sink in your desperate attempt to hold on to primitive iron age mythology? Arguing with Forever Angel is pretty much banging your head against a wall since you do not even agree with the fundamentals, such as reason being a value.
-- Posted by tdc17 at 11:22 am on July 12, 2009
It's simple.. they have fragile minds so they need to believe in something like god. I believed in santa and god when I was little, then I became older, smarter with a strong mind, and got common sense.
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 11:24 am on July 12, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 6:44 am on July 12, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 3:27 am on July 11, 2009
When you find that there is empirical evidence for everything you believe, then you can look down on those of faith. However, at that point you'll probably find you have lost all human qualities and values. 
So you are saying that reason and rationality is not even a value? How far can you sink in your desperate attempt to hold on to primitive iron age mythology? Arguing with Forever Angel is pretty much banging your head against a wall since you do not even agree with the fundamentals, such as reason being a value. 
At least try to understand what I say before making accusations based on your erroneous (on purpose?) interpretations.
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