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-- Posted by asdfghjkl1234 at 3:08 pm on July 6, 2009
What three reasons are for/good for homosexual adoption?
and three reasons are negative for homosexual adoption
-- Posted by Chasey at 3:10 pm on July 6, 2009
1. homosexuals are people too and therefore deserve equivalent rights
2. just as good parents as straight couples
3. a child gets a home 1. child might get bullied
2. child either lacks a mother or a father figure
3. child might get confused because all the other kids have a mum and a dad whereas he or she either has two mums or two dads
-- Posted by aejae at 3:11 pm on July 6, 2009
they want a child and can't have one biologically
the child wants parents
the adoption company makes money
there ya go
-- Posted by rileyy at 3:11 pm on July 6, 2009
-- Posted by Mods1Blow2Me3Daily at 3:11 pm on July 6, 2009
1. you ruin a poor otherwise mentally healthy child by introducing homosexual tendencies to it. 2. youll ensure a healthy social life, cus NO ONE makes fun of the kid with 2 dads. 3.hey you never know, it may learn some fashion sense
-- Posted by xNebulazx at 3:11 pm on July 6, 2009
For homosexual adoption: 1.The child will finally have parents. 2. The parents are bound to love the child since they adopted him/her. 3. It helps create a family.
-- Posted by Chasey at 3:11 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from rileyissweet at 11:11 pm on July 6, 2009
 
lol wtf
i'd be traumatised if i was that kid
-- Posted by xoAllixs0n at 3:11 pm on July 6, 2009
For
1) Love knows to sexual preference.
2) Good parenting isn't determined by the sexual orientation of both partners.
3) It would help promote acceptance for homosexual families. Against
1) The child may be made fun of for a time being in school. I can't think of anymore for against.
-- Posted by tabb at 3:13 pm on July 6, 2009
Well, for one there's really no reason why homosexual couples shouldn't adopt; they're just as good as heterosexual couples at raising children. I see no valid argument against homosexual adoption.
Sure, the child may get made fun of, but at least it has a family.
-- Posted by Dexter Ward at 3:13 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from rileyissweet at 6:11 pm on July 6, 2009
A straight couple into that stuff could do the same.
-- Posted by yebuddy at 3:14 pm on July 6, 2009
for: .... against: do you really have to ask
-- Posted by Dexter Ward at 3:15 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from tabb at 6:13 pm on July 6, 2009
Well, for one there's really no reason why homosexual couples shouldn't adopt; they're just as good as heterosexual couples at raising children. I see no valid argument against homosexual adoption.
Sure, the child may get made fun of, but at least it has a family.
But but they don't have 2 different sexes as parents, I mean that's why they banned single parenthood in America isn't it?
-- Posted by aejae at 3:15 pm on July 6, 2009
lulzy at riley
-- Posted by rileyy at 3:15 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from HarrySunderland at 3:13 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from rileyissweet at 6:11 pm on July 6, 2009 A straight couple into that stuff could do the same.
thats true, that guy might even be straight for all we know
-- Posted by DeForest at 3:17 pm on July 6, 2009
Turn the question around, because it doesn't matter which way it's asked. I don't see why my decision to not have sex with a woman should determine my ability to raise a child. Why are three good reasons for people to adopt? 1. A pre-existing child gets a home.
2. A family is created.
3. Everyone deserves a family. Reasons against adoption: 1. It might turn out they're unable to provide for the child. (I doubt this happens very often since they're watched over)
2. When adopting a child with a terminal/mental illness, or one that was abused when younger, they can require years of therapy and TLC.
3. One might not realise how hard being a parent actually is.
-- Posted by Baron Samedi at 3:19 pm on July 6, 2009
For:
1. There are kids out there who need homes with loving parents. There isn't one good reason not to let gay couples adopt those kids. 2. The kid might get made fun of? Shut the fuck up. Kids get teased for being too fat, too skinny, too tall, too short, having acne, having freckles, having braces, having a lisp, being poor, being rich, shopping at the wrong stores, and the list goes on and on and on and on and on...Having two dads would just be another one to toss on the pile. 3. That whole "equality under the law" thing.
Against:
1. Children raised by gay couples will all turn out gay. That's obviously how it works, since straight couples only raise straight children. 2. It goes against good christian traditions. And in a theocracy like America one religion's beliefs govern everyone's lives. 3. No, seriously, there is not a single good reason against it.
-- Posted by SearchxAndxDestroy at 3:23 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Baron Samedi at 6:19 pm on July 6, 2009
For:
1. There are kids out there who need homes with loving parents. There isn't one good reason not to let gay couples adopt those kids. 2. The kid might get made fun of? Shut the fuck up. Kids get teased for being too fat, too skinny, too tall, too short, having acne, having freckles, having braces, having a lisp, being poor, being rich, shopping at the wrong stores, and the list goes on and on and on and on and on...Having two dads would just be another one to toss on the pile. 3. That whole "equality under the law" thing.
Against:
1. Children raised by gay couples will all turn out gay. That's obviously how it works, since straight couples only raise straight children. 2. It goes against good christian traditions. And in a theocracy like America one religion's beliefs govern everyone's lives. 3. No, seriously, there is not a single good reason against it.
Exactly this..
-- Posted by ironicdreams at 3:26 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:10 pm on July 6, 2009
1. homosexuals are people too and therefore deserve equivalent rights
2. just as good parents as straight couples
3. a child gets a home 1. child might get bullied
2. child either lacks a mother or a father figure
3. child might get confused because all the other kids have a mum and a dad whereas he or she either has two mums or two dads
These days honey, most children don't have both a mum and a dad.
-- Posted by Chasey at 3:28 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 11:26 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:10 pm on July 6, 2009
1. homosexuals are people too and therefore deserve equivalent rights
2. just as good parents as straight couples
3. a child gets a home 1. child might get bullied
2. child either lacks a mother or a father figure
3. child might get confused because all the other kids have a mum and a dad whereas he or she either has two mums or two dads
These days honey, most children don't have both a mum and a dad.
i know, i don't either, but it'd be confusing if you had two mums or dads when you're raised in a society where the media only really shows you male/female parental relationships
-- Posted by DrFeelzGood at 3:28 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:10 pm on July 6, 2009
1. homosexuals are people too and therefore deserve equivalent rights
2. just as good parents as straight couples
3. a child gets a home 1. child might get bullied
2. child either lacks a mother or a father figure
3. child might get confused because all the other kids have a mum and a dad whereas he or she either has two mums or two dads
This pretty much sums it up.  Me and my partner have been thinking about adopting a child in a couple of years.
-- Posted by Chasey at 3:30 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from DrFeelzGood at 11:28 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:10 pm on July 6, 2009
1. homosexuals are people too and therefore deserve equivalent rights
2. just as good parents as straight couples
3. a child gets a home 1. child might get bullied
2. child either lacks a mother or a father figure
3. child might get confused because all the other kids have a mum and a dad whereas he or she either has two mums or two dads
This pretty much sums it up. Me and my partner have been thinking about adopting a child in a couple of years.
my boyfriend was talking about adopting children once. i actually slapped him in the face. i'd hate to bring up a child in a homosexual relationship - it's inconsiderate regarding the amount of homophobia in the world today.
-- Posted by ironicdreams at 4:00 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:28 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 11:26 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:10 pm on July 6, 2009
1. homosexuals are people too and therefore deserve equivalent rights
2. just as good parents as straight couples
3. a child gets a home 1. child might get bullied
2. child either lacks a mother or a father figure
3. child might get confused because all the other kids have a mum and a dad whereas he or she either has two mums or two dads
These days honey, most children don't have both a mum and a dad.
i know, i don't either, but it'd be confusing if you had two mums or dads when you're raised in a society where the media only really shows you male/female parental relationships
I think I have to disagree with you. I believe that homosexuality is becoming much more socially acceptable nowadays. Which is proven by New Hampshire becoming the sixth state to legalize same-sex marriages.
-- Posted by Chasey at 4:03 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 12:00 am on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:28 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 11:26 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:10 pm on July 6, 2009
1. homosexuals are people too and therefore deserve equivalent rights
2. just as good parents as straight couples
3. a child gets a home 1. child might get bullied
2. child either lacks a mother or a father figure
3. child might get confused because all the other kids have a mum and a dad whereas he or she either has two mums or two dads
These days honey, most children don't have both a mum and a dad.
i know, i don't either, but it'd be confusing if you had two mums or dads when you're raised in a society where the media only really shows you male/female parental relationships
I think I have to disagree with you. I believe that homosexuality is becoming much more socially acceptable nowadays. Which is proven by New Hampshire becoming the sixth state to legalize same-sex marriages.
just because gays are getting recognised as human beings doesn't mean there won't still be a great deal of homophobia in a decade's time.
-- Posted by ironicdreams at 4:09 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 4:03 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 12:00 am on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:28 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 11:26 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:10 pm on July 6, 2009
1. homosexuals are people too and therefore deserve equivalent rights
2. just as good parents as straight couples
3. a child gets a home 1. child might get bullied
2. child either lacks a mother or a father figure
3. child might get confused because all the other kids have a mum and a dad whereas he or she either has two mums or two dads
These days honey, most children don't have both a mum and a dad.
i know, i don't either, but it'd be confusing if you had two mums or dads when you're raised in a society where the media only really shows you male/female parental relationships
I think I have to disagree with you. I believe that homosexuality is becoming much more socially acceptable nowadays. Which is proven by New Hampshire becoming the sixth state to legalize same-sex marriages.
just because gays are getting recognised as human beings doesn't mean there won't still be a great deal of homophobia in a decade's time.
So you're saying that a white person and a black person should not be allowed to have kids, right? Interracial marriage also used to be illegal. It took a lot of time for that to change. Even though they are legal now, there are still many people out there who are racist and are too stubborn to see anything from anybody else's perspective. If you base your theory against homosexual adoption on what you've said here, basically no couple should ever adopt. Ever.
-- Posted by asdfghjkl1234 at 4:11 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 4:03 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 12:00 am on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:28 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 11:26 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:10 pm on July 6, 2009
1. homosexuals are people too and therefore deserve equivalent rights
2. just as good parents as straight couples
3. a child gets a home 1. child might get bullied
2. child either lacks a mother or a father figure
3. child might get confused because all the other kids have a mum and a dad whereas he or she either has two mums or two dads
These days honey, most children don't have both a mum and a dad.
i know, i don't either, but it'd be confusing if you had two mums or dads when you're raised in a society where the media only really shows you male/female parental relationships
I think I have to disagree with you. I believe that homosexuality is becoming much more socially acceptable nowadays. Which is proven by New Hampshire becoming the sixth state to legalize same-sex marriages.
just because gays are getting recognised as human beings doesn't mean there won't still be a great deal of homophobia in a decade's time.
look at racism. blacks didn't have rights and now more and more people are becoming reasonable with everything changing.
-- Posted by Chasey at 4:13 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 12:09 am on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 4:03 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 12:00 am on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:28 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 11:26 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:10 pm on July 6, 2009
1. homosexuals are people too and therefore deserve equivalent rights
2. just as good parents as straight couples
3. a child gets a home 1. child might get bullied
2. child either lacks a mother or a father figure
3. child might get confused because all the other kids have a mum and a dad whereas he or she either has two mums or two dads
These days honey, most children don't have both a mum and a dad.
i know, i don't either, but it'd be confusing if you had two mums or dads when you're raised in a society where the media only really shows you male/female parental relationships
I think I have to disagree with you. I believe that homosexuality is becoming much more socially acceptable nowadays. Which is proven by New Hampshire becoming the sixth state to legalize same-sex marriages.
just because gays are getting recognised as human beings doesn't mean there won't still be a great deal of homophobia in a decade's time.
So you're saying that a white person and a black person should not be allowed to have kids, right? Interracial marriage also used to be illegal. It took a lot of time for that to change. Even though they are legal now, there are still many people out there who are racist and are too stubborn to see anything from anybody else's perspective. If you base your theory against homosexual adoption on what you've said here, basically no couple should ever adopt. Ever.
interracial marriage isn't horribly frowned on these days unlike homosexuality i've yet to see any interracial couple receive the same level of abuse that i received for being a fag i wouldn't even fucking chance putting a child through that shit
-- Posted by ironicdreams at 4:18 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 4:13 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 12:09 am on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 4:03 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 12:00 am on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:28 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 11:26 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 3:10 pm on July 6, 2009
1. homosexuals are people too and therefore deserve equivalent rights
2. just as good parents as straight couples
3. a child gets a home 1. child might get bullied
2. child either lacks a mother or a father figure
3. child might get confused because all the other kids have a mum and a dad whereas he or she either has two mums or two dads
These days honey, most children don't have both a mum and a dad.
i know, i don't either, but it'd be confusing if you had two mums or dads when you're raised in a society where the media only really shows you male/female parental relationships
I think I have to disagree with you. I believe that homosexuality is becoming much more socially acceptable nowadays. Which is proven by New Hampshire becoming the sixth state to legalize same-sex marriages.
just because gays are getting recognised as human beings doesn't mean there won't still be a great deal of homophobia in a decade's time.
So you're saying that a white person and a black person should not be allowed to have kids, right? Interracial marriage also used to be illegal. It took a lot of time for that to change. Even though they are legal now, there are still many people out there who are racist and are too stubborn to see anything from anybody else's perspective. If you base your theory against homosexual adoption on what you've said here, basically no couple should ever adopt. Ever.
interracial marriage isn't horribly frowned on these days unlike homosexuality i've yet to see any interracial couple receive the same level of abuse that i received for being a fag i wouldn't even fucking chance putting a child through that shit
I guess you haven't seen a lot of racism then. Children will be victims and children will be bullies. That's how life is. If you uniform a school so kids can't pick on other kids' clothing, they will find something else. I've seen horrible mistreatment, and not just by children, to children. For being a race other than white, for being handicapped, for having his father in the military. Don't flatter yourself in thinking that homosexuals get the worst of treatment. I'm not saying any group of specific people, whether gays or mormons, have it worse than the other. But if you're still alive, I doubt you have received the torture and ridicule that many other people have had.
-- Posted by Chasey at 4:25 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 12:18 am on July 7, 2009
I guess you haven't seen a lot of racism then. Children will be victims and children will be bullies. That's how life is. If you uniform a school so kids can't pick on other kids' clothing, they will find something else. I've seen horrible mistreatment, and not just by children, to children. For being a race other than white, for being handicapped, for having his father in the military. Don't flatter yourself in thinking that homosexuals get the worst of treatment. I'm not saying any group of specific people, whether gays or mormons, have it worse than the other. But if you're still alive, I doubt you have received the torture and ridicule that many other people have had.
 i live in toxteth - notorious for it's racism riots. i'm not flattering myself. if i can AVOID bringing a child into a life where it's going to get picked on and bullied of course i'm going to. i'm not going to put up with the guilt of knowing that i'm the CAUSE of my child's mistreatment. i never said i received torture or ridicule - however i got beat up to the extent i had to switch school (yeah fucking laugh), i got kicked out my house, disowned by my parents, i get snide comments, dirty looks, people treat me differently.. my cousin's been beat up so badly he had to be hospitalised for "looking gay", going nothing more, just standing at a bustop minding his own business. why would i risk bringing those sorts of threatening situations upon my own child ? it's inconsiderate and too fucking risky for me. fair enough if someone wants to turn a blind eye to this issue and bring up a child because they want to, or whatever, but IN MY OPINION (which this whole topic is about - opinion - and don't try to change mine) i would never adopt a child. it's cruel.
-- Posted by ironicdreams at 4:33 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from Chasey at 4:25 pm on July 6, 2009
Quote: from ironicdreams at 12:18 am on July 7, 2009
I guess you haven't seen a lot of racism then. Children will be victims and children will be bullies. That's how life is. If you uniform a school so kids can't pick on other kids' clothing, they will find something else. I've seen horrible mistreatment, and not just by children, to children. For being a race other than white, for being handicapped, for having his father in the military. Don't flatter yourself in thinking that homosexuals get the worst of treatment. I'm not saying any group of specific people, whether gays or mormons, have it worse than the other. But if you're still alive, I doubt you have received the torture and ridicule that many other people have had.
i live in toxteth - notorious for it's racism riots. i'm not flattering myself. if i can AVOID bringing a child into a life where it's going to get picked on and bullied of course i'm going to. i'm not going to put up with the guilt of knowing that i'm the CAUSE of my child's mistreatment. i never said i received torture or ridicule - however i got beat up to the extent i had to switch school (yeah fucking laugh){1}, i got kicked out my house, disowned by my parents, i get snide comments, dirty looks, people treat me differently.. my cousin's been beat up so badly he had to be hospitalised for "looking gay", going nothing more, just standing at a bustop minding his own business. why would i risk bringing those sorts of threatening situations upon my own child ? it's inconsiderate and too fucking risky for me. fair enough if someone wants to turn a blind eye to this issue and bring up a child because they want to, or whatever, but IN MY OPINION (which this whole topic is about - opinion - and don't try to change mine {2}) i would never adopt a child. it's cruel.
{1} I don't see why I would laugh. I don't think that is funny.
{2} I understand I can't change your opinion, nor was I trying to. A debate just sounded fun before it turned into a bit of cussing.
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