-- Posted by GFHOPEFUL at 9:16 pm on July 5, 2009 I guess because I'm not up to par and they know they can do a lot better than me? I don't know. I'm still young (17) and a lot of women are very shallow. Some aren't though. Half of me says "Hey, go for it. Who cares." and the other half says "Dude, don't even waste your time, she doesn't care how smart you are or anything, she's way out of your league..." It doesn't really bother me, it's just, idk, there are lots of attractive women out there, and I'd love to talk to them but I get real shy when I'm around them. idk.. -- Posted by pclueless92 at 9:17 pm on July 5, 2009 Just go for it. -- Posted by 420mike at 9:17 pm on July 5, 2009 They can be intimidating yeah.  Business women freak me out, some raw ass women. -- Posted by Sexican at 9:17 pm on July 5, 2009 well in a way that makes you shallow too for thinking they wont give you the time of day. your being shallow by only talking to people you are on par with too -- Posted by andrethebest1 at 9:18 pm on July 5, 2009 I'm intimidated by attractive women also, I hate that. -- Posted by chanellover94 at 9:18 pm on July 5, 2009 Don't underestimate yourself! You're good looking and it sounds as if intelligence is on your side considering the "she doesn't care how smart you are or anything" because for the record; I like a guy with brains and so do a lot of other girls. -- Posted by nousakan at 9:19 pm on July 5, 2009 This is cliche but just go for it you really dont have anything to lose.  I was like that too but then it kinda hit me like hell if they don't go for me its not like my situation gets worse or anything.  You only have something to gain from going for them. -- Posted by Miss Vanity at 9:19 pm on July 5, 2009 Don't be intimidated. -- Posted by GFHOPEFUL at 9:20 pm on July 5, 2009 Quote: from Sexican at 9:17 pm on July 5, 2009 well in a way that makes you shallow too for thinking they wont give you the time of day. your being shallow by only talking to people you are on par with too As much as I hate to admit it. You're right. But I don't feel to bad saying it because I HAVE tried with a lot of attractive women. I'm generalizing bigtime. But like, all the "really attractive girls" I've talked to, have been shallow jerks to me. Girls you honestly thought wouldn't be like that. -- Posted by mem18 at 9:25 pm on July 5, 2009 at least you can say u tried and didnt pussy out -- Posted by GFHOPEFUL at 9:33 pm on July 5, 2009 ha. That doesn't help but yeah I've tried with a decent handful and just gave up =/ -- Posted by theyareAs at 9:44 pm on July 5, 2009 Thats true for almost every guy. but then again what you see is what you get, which might not be a good thing -- Posted by iconoclast at 9:46 pm on July 5, 2009 if they dont care how smart you are, theyre just stupid blow-up dolls anyway so why care -- Posted by TheClassic at 1:28 am on July 6, 2009 A lot of girls I've talked to say that if you come on with confidence and make the first move you have nothing to lose.  Something has to be off about you for them to turn you down.  Especially at 17. -- Posted by blackarrow at 5:30 am on July 6, 2009 Dude, all i have to say is...pick your fights, don't just go out and try every piece of *** you see out there. Because at the end of the day, if you get rejected enough times then it will really hurt your confidence, on the other hand if you get 1 yes after 99 no's, you still got 1 yes.... -- Posted by GFHOPEFUL at 7:58 am on July 6, 2009 I am pretty confident when I talk to girls. I fake it very well and after that it (usually) just comes easier. For me, the hardest part is just going over there and talking. -- Posted by 4ade at 8:17 am on July 6, 2009 don't worry man nearly all guys find it hard to talk to attractive women. I guess you just have to realise what have you got to loose, I mean you may as well try. Maybe if you felt more confident in yourself, say you started working out you may feel you have more of a chance? If you get my drift. -- Posted by TheClassic at 9:30 am on July 6, 2009 If you're a normally a social person, you shouldn't have a problem. The worst thing that guys do is psych themselves out.  So right when you see that girl that you want to talk to, walk over to them and say something - DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.  I know it's easier said than done, but you just have to.  Look at the surroundings, and just think of something clever as you're walking over, and don't use pickup lines.