Pages: 1 2 3  Next -- Posted by jakelong at 3:31 pm on July 4, 2009 "Where Is The Love?" What's wrong with the world, mama People livin' like they ain't got no mamas I think the whole world addicted to the drama Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism But we still got terrorists here livin' In the USA, the big CIA The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK But if you only have love for your own race Then you only leave space to discriminate And to discriminate only generates hate And when you hate then you're bound to get irate, yeah Madness is what you demonstrate And that's exactly how anger works and operates Man, you gotta have love just to set it straight Take control of your mind and meditate Let your soul gravitate to the love, y'all, y'all ... I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder Most of us only care about money makin' Selfishness got us followin' our wrong direction Wrong information always shown by the media Negative images is the main criteria Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria Kids wanna act like what they see in the cinema Yo', whatever happened to the values of humanity Whatever happened to the fairness in equality Instead of spreading love we're spreading animosity Lack of understanding, leading lives away from unity That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down There's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under Gotta keep my faith alive till love is found Now ask yourself Where is the love? -- Posted by 2kewl4u2know at 3:32 pm on July 4, 2009 I haven't heard this song in awhile. -- Posted by audibleSIN at 3:32 pm on July 4, 2009 In my DAMN PANTS. GET ON IN. -- Posted by XxemochickxX at 3:34 pm on July 4, 2009 old song, but yea, -- Posted by LiveForeverDieTonite at 3:37 pm on July 4, 2009 I used that song for a history project, actually. Lol -- Posted by jakelong at 3:40 pm on July 4, 2009 Quote: from XxemochickxX at 3:34 pm on July 4, 2009 old song, but yea, oldie but goodie -- Posted by Bud2400 at 3:48 pm on July 4, 2009 Lol, back when that song first came out, I remember the people who listened to it were getting laughed at.  It's an okay song, though I always thought it was a bit cliche.  Either way, I just remember people getting lolled at like crazy and told they were gay for liking it, or really anything by Black Eyed Peas. Maybe if you could find a way to mix the message with something a little more hard, it might just be able to appeal to the people who typically hate listening to songs as soft as that.  But I honestly have no idea how you'd do that without it seeming like a joke. -- Posted by ronpaul691 at 3:50 pm on July 4, 2009 Will.i.am couldn't control his African rage and assaulted that homo Perez Hilton. More proof that around blacks never relax. -- Posted by kidd rune at 3:59 pm on July 4, 2009 You can't possibly love your race, and at the same time, not hate or wish to discriminate others? Fallacious. -- Posted by jakelong at 4:21 pm on July 4, 2009 Quote: from Bud2400 at 3:48 pm on July 4, 2009 Lol, back when that song first came out, I remember the people who listened to it were getting laughed at. So that means its a bad song? Come on man thats a pretty lame way to piss on the thing. Maybe if you could find a way to mix the message with something a little more hard Well yeah but that doesn't mean the message is wrong itself. its always thought gay to speak against hate and against killin and for uniting. when ppl tell you to kill and hate then yeah its more hard core but that doesn't mean those guys who think like that aren't gay themselves You got ppl that keep pissing on others and telling them to hate and meanwhile they dress up as little girls and whine all day. Thats pretty pussy. -- Posted by jakelong at 4:22 pm on July 4, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 3:59 pm on July 4, 2009 You can't possibly love your race, and at the same time, not hate or wish to discriminate others? Fallacious. Not when we speak of WNs its not. -- Posted by kidd rune at 4:52 pm on July 4, 2009 Quote: from jakelong at 7:22 pm on July 4, 2009 Not when we speak of WNs its not. I'm a WN and I don't hate or wish to discriminate. I wish in pure freedom of association. If you want to live with other races, go ahead. If you want to miscegenate, go ahead. I may not agree with you, but what am I going to do? But, if you want to live with just your race and keep your bloodline in one group - go ahead. Nobody has any right to stop you. -- Posted by kidd rune at 4:53 pm on July 4, 2009 Well yeah but that doesn't mean the message is wrong itself. its always thought gay to speak against hate and against killin and for uniting. when ppl tell you to kill and hate then yeah its more hard core but that doesn't mean those guys who think like that aren't gay themselves There's nothing wrong with singing to convince people to stop hating races, but there is something wrong with suggesting love for your race equates to hate for others. -- Posted by jakelong at 5:34 pm on July 4, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 4:52 pm on July 4, 2009 I'm a WN and I don't hate or wish to discriminate. I don't know if you hate but you sure want to discriminate. Race segregation is pretty much discrmination, When you say to a group of ppl you can't live here because of their race thats discrimination. When you say to a group of ppl they don't have a right to bring in their family because they are not of the race you want you discriminate. When you say to ppl they are not white because they have 1/8 nonwhite you discriminate. And when you discriminate it does generate hate because of the injustice. -- Posted by Bud2400 at 7:28 pm on July 4, 2009 Quote: from jakelong at 4:21 pm on July 4, 2009 So that means its a bad song? Come on man thats a pretty lame way to piss on the thing. Nah, I like plenty of things that people laugh at. Although this specific song is just okay. I hear the sentiment expressed all the time. Yeah, it's cool that they put it in a song and the song isn't bad, but eh, I'd rather be listening to Tech N9ne or some shit.   I only recall that because I have a lol memory back in 2003. I had just gotten my license toward the end of that year, being the first of all my friends, and as a result, I was shuttling everyone around. Anyway, my friend wanted to go meet this girl he was trying to hook up with at the movie theater with this group of people from school. My dad's car had a pretty good amp and subs (at least by 2003 standards), so I gave my friend a bunch of shit by playing that song at full blast with max bass (like it was a party van or something) as I pulled up to his group at the theater. It was so lol. Everyone died laughing and my friend couldn't look at anyone in the face, while they all called him homo and did so for weeks. Haha this song brings back that memory every time I hear it - that's why I brought it up. -- Posted by kidd rune at 8:01 pm on July 4, 2009 Quote: from jakelong at 8:34 pm on July 4, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 4:52 pm on July 4, 2009 I'm a WN and I don't hate or wish to discriminate. I don't know if you hate but you sure want to discriminate. Race segregation is pretty much discrmination, When you say to a group of ppl you can't live here because of their race thats discrimination. When you say to a group of ppl they don't have a right to bring in their family because they are not of the race you want you discriminate. When you say to ppl they are not white because they have 1/8 nonwhite you discriminate. And when you discriminate it does generate hate because of the injustice. Freedom of association is not discrimination, Jake. I feel that any race has the right to create a nation so they can associate solely with their own kind. I am White, and I support a nation for Whites only. I do not wish to discriminate, Jake. When I say someone isn't White because 1/8 of their genome isn't, I'm not lying. 1/8 is quite a bit. I believe people should have the right to be around their own race if they please, or be around all the races if they please. -- Posted by TigressaLynnMae at 10:19 am on July 5, 2009 I feel that any race has the right to create a nation so they can associate solely with their own kind. I am White, and I support a nation for Whites only. I do not wish to discriminate, Jake. And that's not discrimination based upon race? Because, as I see it, wishing a world for one race, and one race only, or even a nation simply, is discrimination upon other valid races. -- Posted by kidd rune at 12:52 pm on July 5, 2009 Quote: from TigressaLynnMae at 1:19 pm on July 5, 2009 I feel that any race has the right to create a nation so they can associate solely with their own kind. I am White, and I support a nation for Whites only. I do not wish to discriminate, Jake. And that's not discrimination based upon race? Because, as I see it, wishing a world for one race, and one race only, or even a nation simply, is discrimination upon other valid races. It isn't. A nation is just a line on a map. If someone wants to only be around his own kind, who are you to tell him he can't do that? Why should people have to be forced into multiculturalism? If people want to, fine. I don't care. But I believe in freedom of association for all people. Ethnic diversity creates conflict, it is not a strength. Also, I do not wish the world to be for one race. I believe the opposite. I wish the races of man continue to exist. The world is large enough to house all of the races. If a nation for Whites exists, nobody has to live there. If some nonWhite wants to live among Whites, he can do so in a multicultural country. If Whites want to live with other races, they can do so in a multicultural country. Many exist. -- Posted by jakelong at 1:11 pm on July 5, 2009 Quote: from Bud2400 at 7:28 pm on July 4, 2009  My dad's car had a pretty good amp and subs (at least by 2003 standards) nice! What type did you have? , so I gave my friend a bunch of shit by playing that song at full blast with max bass (like it was a party van or something) as I pulled up to his group at the theater.  It was so lol.   haha yeah thats' funny man. No wonder yeah. -- Posted by jakelong at 1:16 pm on July 5, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 8:01 pm on July 4, 2009 Freedom of association is not discrimination, Jake. Association is fine. Telling other ppl becase of their race to GTFO is discrimination, Kidd. If blacks in a club told me I couldn't join because im not white I'd say its discrimination too. There are free to join together according to their race. But it still would be discrimination if they tell others they can't join. I do not wish to discriminate, Jake. You may not "wish" but the white nation you described to me will be practing discimination all over in its laws, in its intentions, in its practices.   I believe people should have the right to be around their own race if they please, or be around all the races if they please. Sure but excluding other races is discrimination. -- Posted by Bud2400 at 1:26 pm on July 5, 2009 Quote: from jakelong at 1:11 pm on July 5, 2009 nice! What type did you have? I honestly don't remember. That was 6 years ago lol. I just know that my new amp I got 6 months ago is 1400 watts and it can pump bass way harder than that thing could 6 years ago. haha yeah thats' funny man. No wonder yeah. Sadly I don't think you can turn that message into something hard. You need something in the song that creates adrenaline to do that, and usually they feed off some of kind anger or aggression for that like this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Afc5mcKSk Or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro08bILEvqc -- Posted by jakelong at 1:27 pm on July 5, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 12:52 pm on July 5, 2009 If someone wants to only be around his own kind, who are you to tell him he can't do that? ONLY. But if you only have love for your own race Then you only leave space to discriminate And to discriminate only generates hate Why should people have to be forced into multiculturalism? So having other races around is "muticulturalism"? Its either Race nationalism OR multiculturalism? Theres nothing in betweeen? Ethnic diversity creates conflict, it is not a strength. Opinion If a nation for Whites exists, nobody has to live there. The way in which you MAINTAIN your white nation will be discriminatory. Kidd. You are proving the song right.   -- Posted by kidd rune at 2:25 pm on July 5, 2009 So having other races around is "muticulturalism"? Its either Race nationalism OR multiculturalism? Theres nothing in betweeen? Do you know of a word that describes in-between? Lack of other races is monoracial. With other races is multiracial. Opinion Can you give any strengths? The way in which you MAINTAIN your white nation will be discriminatory. Kidd. You are proving the song right. Wrong, sir. Discrimination is mistreatment of people based on their race, ethnicity, religion, or something like that. Nobody is being mistreated. Simply, people are being given freedom of association. Why would a nonWhite want to go to an all-White country? Nobody in the country wants to live with them. They freely choose to be with only their kind. That would make one person happy, and the rest unhappy. -- Posted by jakelong at 3:56 pm on July 5, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 2:25 pm on July 5, 2009 Do you know of a word that describes in-between? OYou can only think in extermes and with labels? Lack of other races is monoracial. With other races is multiracial. Different from multicultural. Can you give any strengths? Variety of thinking, variety of opinions, variety of skills and expertise. Discrimination is mistreatment of people based on their race, ethnicity, religion, or something like that. Mistreatement? Not always. When you EXCLUDE you DISCRIMANTE. Look up the word, sir.   Why would a nonWhite want to go to an all-White country? Why wouldn't they? Who are you to DECIDE for them what they might like or might not? Would you accept abs in your nation? -- Posted by kidd rune at 5:53 pm on July 5, 2009 OYou can only think in extermes and with labels? I will ask again: Do you know of a word that describes in-between? I really only think it's one or the other. Different from multicultural. Since we don't like to admit race exists, we say "Multicultural" instead of "multiracial" Variety of thinking, variety of opinions, variety of skills and expertise. Wait... Now, each race has its own unique opinions, way of thinking, skills, and expertise? Can't all people share this? I see what you're saying. Technically, this IS diversity, and it IS a strength. But you took it out of context and took "Diversity" too literally. A house is built better when you have a diverse crew. Carpenters, builders, painters, architects, and the like. To have various skills, expertise, and methods makes the house stronger, quicker, and last longer. But let's take our carpenters and builders and painters and all other people. And take some out, and put some in. Let's say 1/5 of the crew speaks Spanish. 4/5 speak English. How is this going to help the house be built? What if some of the workers are Muslim, some Hindu, some Jewish, some Christian? How will these differences help the house be built? If anything, it will create conflict. What if some of the workers preferred to work with their music blasting, while others liked quiet, softer music? Can they all be happy? Many different examples exist, but I think you get the picture. Mistreatement? Not always. When you EXCLUDE you DISCRIMANTE. Look up the word, sir. Nobody is being excluded from Whites, if Whites prefer to associate with other races. If you want to live around Whites, go ahead and live in a multiracial setting. Why would you want to move to an all-White country if the population lives there for the sole reason of not wanting to be around your kind? It's wrong to call it discrimination, and even if you do, it's wrong to apply the negative connotations to it. Why wouldn't they? Who are you to DECIDE for them what they might like or might not? The whole point of the nation is for Whites to associate with only people like them. Whites only. Why would you go to a nation if the population is only there because they do not want to live with your kind? Would you accept abs in your nation? Again, why would he want to go there? Why would Abs want to live in a nation where people wish to solely associate with people of their race. Doesn't he like Korean girls? -- Posted by jakelong at 6:38 pm on July 5, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 5:53 pm on July 5, 2009 I really only think it's one or the other. Because you only think in ABSOLUTES . Since we don't like to admit race exists, we say "Multicultural" instead of "multiracial" Oh so you admit that race doesn't exist? Ok... Wait... Now, each race has its own unique opinions, way of thinking, skills, and expertise? Can't all people share this? Sure. But other races bring in even more variety. But you took it out of context and took "Diversity" too literally. Why not? Diversity is diversity.   To have various skills, expertise, and methods makes the house stronger, quicker, and last longer. yep Let's say 1/5 of the crew speaks Spanish. 4/5 speak English. How is this going to help the house be built? People can share things across languages actually. But they can agree on SELECTING the same language. How does their race affects anything? Not only that spanish and english share latin as the root. If they are both studying another lanuage say French then those who know spanish and those who know english can get together and manage to make some sense of French. Since some english words and some spanish words can be found in French they might be able to decipher together. What if some of the workers are Muslim, some Hindu, some Jewish, some Christian? How would their religion affect the way the house is built? Unless they are bulding a place of worship and they have decided on what it should be then if they are building a regular house their faith has no impact. But maybe the fact that they have DIFFERENT experiences in what som buildings can support they ocould use their variety of experience to makea better and stronger house. Maybe there could be a few disagreements at first (there always is even if all the builders are white and protestant btw) but eventually they can even build a better bulding. Many different examples exist, but I think you get the picture. I think you missed the picture. Nobody is being excluded from Whites, if Whites prefer to associate with other races. In a "white nation" nonwhites would be excluded. If you want to live around Whites, go ahead and live in a multiracial setting. Meanwhile you are "free" to practice discrimination in your white nation? Even if others are "free" not to discriminate you will still be creating a discriminating society. just like the song says. Why would you want to move to an all-White country if the population lives there for the sole reason of not wanting to be around your kind? Why do you think that would be the reason? there might be many reasons why a nonwhite would want to live in a white nation. Maybe that nation has good jobs. Maybe the weather is nice. Maybe the culture is interesting. It's wrong to call it discrimination It is a fact. The method you described to MAINTAIN your ation white are discriminatory. and even if you do, it's wrong to apply the negative connotations to it. Negative and postive are just opinions right? how can they be 'wrong"? WhThe whole point of the nation is for Whites to associate with only people like them. Whites only. Yes and when you put in ONLY you discriminate. Again, why would he want to go there? Why not? He thinks he's white. Why would Abs want to live in a nation where people wish to solely associate with people of their race. Doesn't he like Korean girls? He's 7/8 white. why would white ppl not want to associate with him? Are you saying he is not of the same race as other whites? -- Posted by kidd rune at 7:03 pm on July 5, 2009 Because you only think in ABSOLUTES . I have told you to give me another word, Jake. For the intermediate. It's either one or the other, because if one isn't true, the other must be true. Sure. But other races bring in even more variety. One race can't have those same skills? People can share things across languages actually. But they can agree on SELECTING the same language. How does their race affects anything? Not only that spanish and english share latin as the root. If they are both studying another lanuage say French then those who know spanish and those who know english can get together and manage to make some sense of French. Since some english words and some spanish words can be found in French they might be able to decipher together. It's quite irrelevant. You're not going to understand someone who speaks a different language no matter if there are similarities. And, no, Latin is not the base for the English language. English is Germanic and uses the Latin alphabet. How would their religion affect the way the house is built? Unless they are bulding a place of worship and they have decided on what it should be then if they are building a regular house their faith has no impact. But maybe the fact that they have DIFFERENT experiences in what som buildings can support they ocould use their variety of experience to makea better and stronger house. Maybe there could be a few disagreements at first (there always is even if all the builders are white and protestant btw) but eventually they can even build a better bulding. It may affect how the people work together. There is religious conflict, and if a Jew and a Muslim aren't too fond other other religion, it could create a fight that just impedes the building of the house. In a "white nation" nonwhites would be excluded. A nation can exclude whoever it wants, Jake. But the fact is - it's not racially discriminating nonWhites. If nonWhites want - They can be around Whites all they want. Just away from the White nation, where the sole purpose is to associate only with Whites. If nonWhites were allowed to live there, it would defeat the whole purpose of the country. Meanwhile you are "free" to practice discrimination in your white nation? Even if others are "free" not to discriminate you will still be creating a discriminating society. just like the song says. The song says nothing about creating a nation to help people freely associate with who they wish. Again, can you give one singe reason why a nonWhite would want to live in a country where the population lives there ONLY because they want to live around JUST Whites? I want an answer, not "Why not?" Why do you think that would be the reason? there might be many reasons why a nonwhite would want to live in a white nation. Maybe that nation has good jobs. Maybe the weather is nice. Maybe the culture is interesting. They can visit Jake. But why would they live there if THE WHOLE POPULATION DOES NOT WANT TO ASSOCIATE WITH THEM? It is a fact. The method you described to MAINTAIN your ation white are discriminatory. If you construe the definition and bend it about to your needs, sure. Why is it wrong? A nation can let in whoever it wants. Why should they allow nonWhites if there's not one person in the country that wants to live there? Yes and when you put in ONLY you discriminate. No, it's freedom of association. The whole purpose of the nation is to create a land where Whites can live amongst only people of their race. The purpose would be defeated if nonWhites were allowed to live there. Why not? He thinks he's white. That's not the question. Why would Abs want to live in a country solely devoted to people who choose to associate only with Whites? He's 7/8 white. why would white ppl not want to associate with him? Are you saying he is not of the same race as other whites? It's not so much them, but why would Abs want to live there? Abs himself is well aware that he's part nonWhite, and he just puts "White" as his race because he doesn't have ties to Amerinds. I'm sure he'd agree he is biologically mixed, not White. No matter if he shares culture, customs, etc with Whites - that doesn't change his genome and an individuals race has absolutely nothing to do with anything but DNA at all. -- Posted by jakelong at 8:28 pm on July 5, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 7:03 pm on July 5, 2009 I have told you to give me another word, Jake. For the intermediate. Why do they have to have a word? It's either one or the other, because if one isn't true, the other must be true. blakc and white thinking? One race can't have those same skills? You are saying that blacks can be engineers and scientists in large numbers then?   It's quite irrelevant. Why would that be? We are speaking of languages. Using languages to figure out another language is much more relevant than using languages to build a building. And, no, Latin is not the base for the English language. English is Germanic and uses the Latin alphabet. You are an idiot. Many many english words have a latin root. http://www.sfsu.edu/~testing/Greek_Latin_Voc.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English Any 7th grader knows that. -- Posted by kidd rune at 10:03 pm on July 5, 2009 Why do they have to have a word? Alright Jake, you can't seem to get it. If there's only one race, it is monoracial. If there is more than one race, it is multiracial. If there can somehow be neither one or many races in a nation which actually has a population, one word must apply. blakc and white thinking? Explain how a nation can't be either monoracial or multiracial. You are saying that blacks can be engineers and scientists in large numbers then? It's possible for each race to have them. Why would that be? We are speaking of languages. Using languages to figure out another language is much more relevant than using languages to build a building. But we're speaking about making a house. If the builders/architects/painters or whoever can't all communicate, it can't do anything but make matters worse. You are an idiot. Many many english words have a latin root. http://www.sfsu.edu/~testing/Greek_Latin_Voc.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English Any 7th grader knows that. I didn't deny this. I said Latin is not the BASE of the English language. Any 7th grader knows English is not a Latin language. Of course it has Latin roots for some words. It has Greek roots too. -- Posted by jakelong at 11:31 pm on July 5, 2009 Explain how a nation can't be either monoracial or multiracial. What do you call a society with many races and only one culture represented? It's possible for each race to have them. So you admit that a country with a majority of blacks can have a large numbers of engineers.  You admit that ANY race can have a wide variety of characteristics and balities. You admit that there are  GREAT variations in skills and talents within the same race. Good. But we're speaking about making a house. Then how is lagnuage relevant? Why did you bring that up? If the builders/architects/painters or whoever can't all communicate, it can't do anything but make matters worse. What makes you think thye can't? Just because they are a differnt race does that mean they do not speak the same langauge? Also there might be people who can speak BOTH english and spanish. Or they may all agree to speak the same language. That doesnt change who they are. Any 7th grader knows English is not a Latin language. You are confusing latin-based language with having latin and greek words as root of the language.   Remember Kidd this is what I said Not only that spanish and english share latin as the root. Do not mistake the two meanings. Thats a pretty stupid confusion Kidd. Pages: 1 2 3  Next