-- Posted by GoInfernoGlow at 8:41 pm on July 3, 2009 The effects that people get from drugs is from a chemical reaction that occurs inside the person's body when they take the drug, right? Is it possible for someone to have a similar chemical reaction naturally, without any drugs, so the person would appear to be under the influence of some kind of substance when they really aren't? Like, a strange occurrence or a disorder or something? Just asking. -- Posted by agateophobic x at 8:42 pm on July 3, 2009 i doubt it. -- Posted by Angry Kumquat at 8:43 pm on July 3, 2009 You want a drug simulation? Is that like shooting someone without actually shooting someone? -- Posted by GoInfernoGlow at 8:44 pm on July 3, 2009 Quote: from Angry Kumquat at 8:43 pm on July 3, 2009 You want a drug simulation? Is that like shooting someone without actually shooting someone? 1. No, I don't want a drug simulation, I was just wondering if it was possible. 2. I don't think so? -- Posted by Thriftweed at 8:44 pm on July 3, 2009 nope, it could hypothetically but it doesnt since nothing makes it happen -- Posted by HideOrSeek at 8:45 pm on July 3, 2009 You could stimulate your brain with different frequencies and brainwaves. Altering alpha and beta brainwaves... I read that somewhere. You'd had to listen to that for about 20 minutes -- Posted by Angry Kumquat at 8:45 pm on July 3, 2009 Quote: from GoInfernoGlow at 8:44 pm on July 3, 2009 Quote: from Angry Kumquat at 8:43 pm on July 3, 2009 You want a drug simulation?    Is that like shooting someone without actually shooting someone? 1. No, I don't want a drug simulation, I was just wondering if it was possible. 2. I don't think so? It would be quite impossible to have the effect of being under a drug without using one. Don't you think people would be doing that instead of the drug? -- Posted by nyn at 8:45 pm on July 3, 2009 You're asking if there's a naturally occurring imbalance in chemicals that can create an effect similar to those created by narcotics? I'm sure there might be, but I can't give you a definite answer. -- Posted by macdog at 8:45 pm on July 3, 2009 no because the chemicals introduced to the body when something is taken isn't always naturally in the body. -- Posted by drifting at 8:46 pm on July 3, 2009 Sure, sleep deprivation is known to create halucinations for instance. Or low blood sugar, I know theres probably tons more. It also would depend what kind of drug you are talking about, but Im sure there are similar things for each one of them -- Posted by Thriftweed at 8:48 pm on July 3, 2009 Quote: from macdog at 1:45 pm on July 4, 2009 no because the chemicals introduced to the body when something is taken isn't always naturally in the body. yeah but the checimals only alter the natural order of the brain, think of neurology on an atomic scale with molecules floating around rotating in place and it might make sense -- Posted by greatescape at 8:48 pm on July 3, 2009 Adrenaline is a naturally occurring hormone/neurotransmitter that is released after heavy exercise or periods of thrill/fear.  It has effects that are similar to opiates. Production of other neurotransmitters, i.e. serotonin can also produce effects similar to that of some drugs.  So I'd say yes...in a sense. -- Posted by utheh at 8:48 pm on July 3, 2009 yes, its all about receptors in the body, every drug has a natural equivilant which we produce, heroin=endorphins, meth=dopamine, weed=alkoli, etc. -- Posted by GoInfernoGlow at 8:48 pm on July 3, 2009 Quote: from Angry Kumquat at 8:45 pm on July 3, 2009 Quote: from GoInfernoGlow at 8:44 pm on July 3, 2009 Quote: from Angry Kumquat at 8:43 pm on July 3, 2009 You want a drug simulation?   Is that like shooting someone without actually shooting someone?    1. No, I don't want a drug simulation, I was just wondering if it was possible.    2. I don't think so? It would be quite impossible to have the effect of being under a drug without using one. Don't you think people would be doing that instead of the drug? No. If you had actually understood my question... Is there any kind of disorder or strange occurrence that could happen to someone where they could get the same effects of a specific drug. -- Posted by HideOrSeek at 8:49 pm on July 3, 2009 http://www.bwgen.com/presets/desc395.htm -- Posted by WAZ at 8:49 pm on July 3, 2009 Yes all drugs do is trick the brain into releasing chemicals like dopamine and seratonin. Other stimuli releases those like sex and eating. -- Posted by greatescape at 8:50 pm on July 3, 2009 Quote: from GoInfernoGlow at 10:48 pm on July 3, 2009 No. If you had actually understood my question... Is there any kind of disorder or strange occurrence that could happen to someone where they could get the same effects of a specific drug. In Bipolar disorder, mania is often characterized by hallucinations, feelings of grandeur, the ability to stay awake for days on end, and racing thoughts.  Not exactly the same as amphetamines, but there are clear similarities.   -- Posted by Drunkwhore at 8:58 pm on July 3, 2009 Quote: from greatescape at 8:48 pm on July 3, 2009 Adrenaline is a naturally occurring hormone/neurotransmitter that is released after heavy exercise or periods of thrill/fear. It has effects that are similar to opiates. Production of other neurotransmitters, i.e. serotonin can also produce effects similar to that of some drugs. So I'd say yes...in a sense. Yeah that is ture yet you have to prooduce a VERY large amount in order to even get that effect. That is Why if 9 times out of ten if you see a loved one in some kinda hurt. You will go after then and be able to lift cars and shit like that. You know what i mean? -- Posted by girlbythewhirlpool at 8:11 am on July 4, 2009 schizophrenia would be one I suppose.   -- Posted by MourningAir at 12:28 pm on July 4, 2009 many people compare high dose/repeated trips on dxm to having schizophrenia -- Posted by Wilder at 3:35 pm on July 4, 2009 Generally speaking, drugs stimulate certain receptors in a way that the body never will naturally. An interesting case to examine is DMT. Dr. Rick Strassman, who extensively studied DMT (a hallucinogenic tryptamine), theorized that the pineal gland may release high amounts of DMT into the brain at death, resulting in near-death experiences. Large amounts of study certainly stand between this being a hypothesis and this being a known fact, but it is interesting to consider. -- Posted by Skip at 5:35 pm on July 4, 2009 Quote: from MourningAir at 3:28 pm on July 4, 2009 many people compare high dose/repeated trips on dxm to having schizophrenia looking back i can easily see why -- Posted by matto at 5:54 pm on July 4, 2009 endorphins from physical fitness are no lie... other than that, i haven't heard of anything -- Posted by rivedi at 11:14 am on July 5, 2009 lsd is a lot like not being sane. cocaine is a lot like being a delusional paranoid neurotic, compulsive liar, others. heroin is like a long, long, long loving orgasm.