Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by ElephantStone at 2:02 pm on June 26, 2009 Apparently the average IQ of each generation goes up by 5 to 9 points. Therefore I deduce that the human race is not getting more intelligent, which people say IQ is an indicator of in people, but are becoming more intellectual as their academic skills have been more highly hones than their predecessor's. Otherwise you'd have to argue that our brains are profoundly more intelligent than the cave men's. -- Posted by marshmellowman at 2:03 pm on June 26, 2009 It indicates penis size and sexual performance with attractive members of the opposite sex. -- Posted by SpRiNgS at 2:03 pm on June 26, 2009 I think this is a retread dude >_> -- Posted by 80Kidz at 2:04 pm on June 26, 2009 then why are schools test scores going down the pipes. -- Posted by Seth r at 2:05 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from 80Kidz at 4:04 pm on June 26, 2009 then why are schools test scores going down the pipes. Because the kids want to be gangsters? Or their just stupid until a certain age?? I'm out of guesses. -- Posted by starla91 at 2:05 pm on June 26, 2009 IQ tests aren't reliable. It's discussed a lot in pshychology. It's just a stupid, subjective way to try to compare intelligence that is deeply flawed and should be completely disregarded. -- Posted by Dexter Ward at 2:06 pm on June 26, 2009 I agree, IQ tends to be more about book smarts then anything else. Sure you can remember pi to a thousand digits, but if I tossed you in the woods how long would you last. Each generation just seems to not have to worry about manual stuff and this are able to become smarter, but if society failed the "smart" ones are probably going to be the first to die off. Edit, to simplify it just measures a small part of ones intelligence, its not even great for comparing academics but there's so many other things that it completely ignores. -- Posted by ElephantStone at 2:08 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from 80Kidz at 10:04 pm on June 26, 2009 then why are schools test scores going down the pipes. They're still going up in Ireland and a lot of other countries in the world. You know there is an area outside of America called 2The Rest of the World". I doubt you'd have heard about it though... -- Posted by SpRiNgS at 2:09 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 2:08 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from 80Kidz at 10:04 pm on June 26, 2009 then why are schools test scores going down the pipes.   They're still going up in Ireland and a lot of other countries in the world. You know there is an area outside of America called 2The Rest of the World". I doubt you'd have heard about it though... lets not start this again for the love of god thats as much a retread on this forum as the sexism jokes and the crime is for niggers thing so please, stay on subject and no need for snide comments -- Posted by ElephantStone at 2:10 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from HarrySunderland at 10:06 pm on June 26, 2009 I agree, IQ tends to be more about book smarts then anything else. Sure you can remember pi to a thousand digits, but if I tossed you in the woods how long would you last. Each generation just seems to not have to worry about manual stuff and this are able to become smarter, but if society failed the "smart" ones are probably going to be the first to die off. I'm sure there were cave men who would have scored 150 in IQ tests if they had the academic opportunities they are given now, which I think is the reason as to why the IQ levels go up. Not the manual stuff you're blabbering on about. -- Posted by 80Kidz at 2:10 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 2:08 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from 80Kidz at 10:04 pm on June 26, 2009 then why are schools test scores going down the pipes.   They're still going up in Ireland and a lot of other countries in the world. You know there is an area outside of America called 2The Rest of the World". I doubt you'd have heard about it though... way to be a smartass. lets see some of your references asshole. -- Posted by Dexter Ward at 2:10 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from 80Kidz at 5:04 pm on June 26, 2009 then why are schools test scores going down the pipes. That's something to bring up in the political forum. -- Posted by greatescape at 2:11 pm on June 26, 2009 This has been the explanation offered by a large majority of experts in the field but good deduction -- Posted by Dexter Ward at 2:13 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 5:10 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from HarrySunderland at 10:06 pm on June 26, 2009 I agree, IQ tends to be more about book smarts then anything else. Sure you can remember pi to a thousand digits, but if I tossed you in the woods how long would you last. Each generation just seems to not have to worry about manual stuff and this are able to become smarter, but if society failed the "smart" ones are probably going to be the first to die off.   I'm sure there were cave men who would have scored 150 in IQ tests if they had the academic opportunities they are given now, which I think is the reason as to why the IQ levels go up.   Not the manual stuff you're blabbering on about.   That's what I meant, you have a hell of a lot more opportunities if you don't have to spend your life working 12 hours a day on a farm to keep your family alive.  The more advanced society gets the more people are able to improve themselves. -- Posted by Event Horizon at 2:14 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from marshmellowman at 5:03 pm on June 26, 2009 It indicates penis size and sexual performance with attractive members of the opposite sex. I believe that this is actually the case. -- Posted by Narfled the Garthok at 2:15 pm on June 26, 2009 Lucky for you then, your IQ of 52 does not matter. -- Posted by ElephantStone at 2:18 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from 80Kidz at 10:10 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 2:08 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from 80Kidz at 10:04 pm on June 26, 2009 then why are schools test scores going down the pipes.      They're still going up in Ireland and a lot of other countries in the world.    You know there is an area outside of America called 2The Rest of the World". I doubt you'd have heard about it though... way to be a smartass. lets see some of your references asshole. Ridley, M. 'Nature via Nurture' Weinberger, D.R. 'Archives of Psychiatry' -- Posted by MiasmaResonance at 9:15 am on June 29, 2009 Quote: from HarrySunderland at 2:06 pm on June 26, 2009 I agree, IQ tends to be more about book smarts then anything else.  Sure you can remember pi to a thousand digits, but if I tossed you in the woods how long would you last. Each generation just seems to not have to worry about manual stuff and this are able to become smarter, but if society failed the "smart" ones are probably going to be the first to die off. Edit, to simplify it just measures a small part of ones intelligence, its not even great for comparing academics but there's so many other things that it completely ignores. I disagree. Your IQ is not a measure of how much you already know, but rather an indicator of how capable you are of grasping new concepts and ideas. -- Posted by kidd rune at 5:37 pm on June 29, 2009 Do you have statistics to show that we're gaining in IQ but not intelligence? How do you measure intelligence? -- Posted by ElephantStone at 2:52 am on June 30, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 1:37 am on June 30, 2009 Do you have statistics to show that we're gaining in IQ but not intelligence? How do you measure intelligence? I don't know how you would measure intelligence, and I don't think its possible. The term used for what I am describing is called the Flynn effect, look it up and it will give you all the statistics you want. -- Posted by clockworkorange71 at 4:02 pm on June 30, 2009 I don't think they're very accurate at all.  I've met complete idiots with higher IQ's than I have, and I'd like to think I'm atleast a bit above average in intelligence.  For example, I'm pretty good with linguistics, but horrible at math.. and yet those tests don't account for what you're specifically good at.  Nobody is good at everything. -- Posted by JeanClaude at 6:14 pm on June 30, 2009 Quote: from SpRiNgS at 5:09 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 2:08 pm on June 26, 2009 Quote: from 80Kidz at 10:04 pm on June 26, 2009 then why are schools test scores going down the pipes.      They're still going up in Ireland and a lot of other countries in the world.    You know there is an area outside of America called 2The Rest of the World". I doubt you'd have heard about it though... lets not start this again for the love of god thats as much a retread on this forum as the sexism jokes and the crime is for niggers thing so please, stay on subject and no need for snide comments You're just saying this because you're black. -- Posted by Moridin at 12:19 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 12:02 am on June 27, 2009 Apparently the average IQ of each generation goes up by 5 to 9 points. Therefore I deduce that the human race is not getting more intelligent, which people say IQ is an indicator of in people, but are becoming more intellectual as their academic skills have been more highly hones than their predecessor's. Otherwise you'd have to argue that our brains are profoundly more intelligent than the cave men's. But intelligence is a combination of genes and environment, so it is perfectly alright to say that humans are getting more intelligent. -- Posted by ElephantStone at 12:22 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 8:19 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 12:02 am on June 27, 2009 Apparently the average IQ of each generation goes up by 5 to 9 points. Therefore I deduce that the human race is not getting more intelligent, which people say IQ is an indicator of in people, but are becoming more intellectual as their academic skills have been more highly hones than their predecessor's.    Otherwise you'd have to argue that our brains are profoundly more intelligent than the cave men's. But intelligence is a combination of genes and environment, so it is perfectly alright to say that humans are getting more intelligent. So someone who goes to Harvard university because they have the money is more intelligent than you or I? I think intellectual would be the word to describe the effect of environment on that aspect. -- Posted by Moridin at 6:34 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 10:22 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 8:19 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 12:02 am on June 27, 2009 Apparently the average IQ of each generation goes up by 5 to 9 points. Therefore I deduce that the human race is not getting more intelligent, which people say IQ is an indicator of in people, but are becoming more intellectual as their academic skills have been more highly hones than their predecessor's.   Otherwise you'd have to argue that our brains are profoundly more intelligent than the cave men's.    But intelligence is a combination of genes and environment, so it is perfectly alright to say that humans are getting more intelligent. So someone who goes to Harvard university because they have the money is more intelligent than you or I? I think intellectual would be the word to describe the effect of environment on that aspect. He would be more intelligent in his field of expertise after he has completed his education, yes. -- Posted by Forever Angel at 9:33 am on July 2, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 8:34 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 10:22 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 8:19 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 12:02 am on June 27, 2009 Apparently the average IQ of each generation goes up by 5 to 9 points. Therefore I deduce that the human race is not getting more intelligent, which people say IQ is an indicator of in people, but are becoming more intellectual as their academic skills have been more highly hones than their predecessor's.       Otherwise you'd have to argue that our brains are profoundly more intelligent than the cave men's.   But intelligence is a combination of genes and environment, so it is perfectly alright to say that humans are getting more intelligent.    So someone who goes to Harvard university because they have the money is more intelligent than you or I?    I think intellectual would be the word to describe the effect of environment on that aspect. He would be more intelligent in his field of expertise after he has completed his education, yes. Education = intelligence? -- Posted by ElephantStone at 11:49 am on July 2, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 2:34 am on July 2, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 10:22 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 8:19 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 12:02 am on June 27, 2009 Apparently the average IQ of each generation goes up by 5 to 9 points. Therefore I deduce that the human race is not getting more intelligent, which people say IQ is an indicator of in people, but are becoming more intellectual as their academic skills have been more highly hones than their predecessor's.       Otherwise you'd have to argue that our brains are profoundly more intelligent than the cave men's.   But intelligence is a combination of genes and environment, so it is perfectly alright to say that humans are getting more intelligent.    So someone who goes to Harvard university because they have the money is more intelligent than you or I?    I think intellectual would be the word to describe the effect of environment on that aspect. He would be more intelligent in his field of expertise after he has completed his education, yes. So drawing from that, this man is more intelligent than Einstein due to his education. I applaud your intelligence. -- Posted by Event Horizon at 2:26 pm on July 2, 2009 Quote: from Forever Angel at 12:33 pm on July 2, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 8:34 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 10:22 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 8:19 pm on July 1, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 12:02 am on June 27, 2009 Apparently the average IQ of each generation goes up by 5 to 9 points. Therefore I deduce that the human race is not getting more intelligent, which people say IQ is an indicator of in people, but are becoming more intellectual as their academic skills have been more highly hones than their predecessor's.    Otherwise you'd have to argue that our brains are profoundly more intelligent than the cave men's.       But intelligence is a combination of genes and environment, so it is perfectly alright to say that humans are getting more intelligent.   So someone who goes to Harvard university because they have the money is more intelligent than you or I?   I think intellectual would be the word to describe the effect of environment on that aspect.    He would be more intelligent in his field of expertise after he has completed his education, yes. Education = intelligence? I'd say a lot of things equal intelligence -- Posted by Event Horizon at 2:29 pm on July 2, 2009 Quote: from ElephantStone at 2:49 pm on July 2, 2009 So drawing from that, this man is more intelligent than Einstein due to his education.   I applaud your intelligence. I would say a car mechanic is more intelligent in the way of fixing cars than Einstein would have been. In that respect, even a car mechanic can be more intelligent than Einstein. -- Posted by Forever Angel at 3:18 pm on July 2, 2009 Quote: from Event Horizon at 4:26 pm on July 2, 2009 Quote: from Forever Angel at 12:33 pm on July 2, 2009 Education = intelligence? I'd say a lot of things equal intelligence Education certainly doesn't. You can "educate" (as in teach) a dog or a monkey. It doesn't increase their "intelligence". An uneducated "genius" is no less a genius. So, what are some of these "things" you think equal intelligence? Pages: 1 2  Next