Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by misssphin233 at 1:57 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Ok so I am trying to be more open minded and spiritual. I am trying to read about God and all that but I can't do it. I will sit there reading the same hting over and over again and it isn't sinking in. First of all I do have ADD so it is hard enough for me to comprehend what I am reading. But the bible is SO BORING. I CAN'T concentrate on it. I want to learn these things but I just don't know how   -- Posted by danndivision at 1:58 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 dood the bible pwnz -- Posted by Moatilliata at 1:58 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 yes it is -- Posted by I like tuhtles at 1:58 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Use it as toilet paper, it's the best that way. -- Posted by justin1990rm at 1:58 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from I like tuhtles at 4:58 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Use it as toilet paper, it's the best that way. line recycling :( -- Posted by exceedinglyrare at 1:59 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Get an audio version; plenty of people who have trouble focusing while reading have significantly less trouble while listening. -- Posted by MixedDelight at 2:01 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 4:59 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Get an audio version; plenty of people who have trouble focusing while reading have significantly less trouble while listening.     -- Posted by RainbowKid92 at 2:03 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 get the bible on CD. there's one that's narrated by famous actors and actresses, and its dramatic, which makes it interesting. -- Posted by sweetness14 at 2:04 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 All u fucking ppl that diss the bible deserve to go to hell. sorry but that book is holy and the way of life. bet u didnt kno i was christian. i dont show it. diss the bible and diss ur own life. unless ur planning on killing urself. the bible has the answers to all ur fucking problems. dont treat it like shit. toilet paper? are u damn stupid? that book deserves to be read! it speaks to everyone and ur a pathetic if u dont understand that! may the bible lead u in all u do. dont diss the book that holds ur future. this conversation should stop. now. thanx for reading -- Posted by exceedinglyrare at 2:06 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from sweetness14 at 5:04 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 All u fucking ppl that diss the bible deserve to go to hell. sorry but that book is holy and the way of life.   bet u didnt kno i was christian. i dont show it.   diss the bible and diss ur own life. unless ur planning on killing urself. the bible has the answers to all ur fucking problems.   dont treat it like shit.   toilet paper? are u damn stupid? that book deserves to be read! it speaks to everyone and ur a pathetic if u dont understand that!   may the bible lead u in all u do. dont diss the book that holds ur future. this conversation should stop. now.   thanx for reading Very Christian of you   -- Posted by misssphin233 at 2:14 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from sweetness14 at 2:04 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 All u fucking ppl that diss the bible deserve to go to hell. sorry but that book is holy and the way of life.   bet u didnt kno i was christian. i dont show it.   diss the bible and diss ur own life. unless ur planning on killing urself. the bible has the answers to all ur fucking problems.   dont treat it like shit.   toilet paper? are u damn stupid? that book deserves to be read! it speaks to everyone and ur a pathetic if u dont understand that!   may the bible lead u in all u do. dont diss the book that holds ur future. this conversation should stop. now.   thanx for reading Um how am I DISSING anything because I said I CANNOT get into it and understand it? You ar the reason christians have such a bed rep. You are the reason people don't even want to become christian because they're afraid they'll end up like you, shirly phelps roper. -- Posted by misssphin233 at 2:14 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 For some reason the only way I understand religious/spiritual matters is through gospel/religious/spiritual music and paintings. I cannot understand it if I am reading it. -- Posted by GeneCosta at 5:32 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 It's not really boring, but it's downright disgusting. People were trying to kick Harry Potter out of the school? The Old Testament has the main "good guy" advocating genocide, rape, and infanticide. -- Posted by lsd at 5:39 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from GeneCosta at 5:32 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 It's not really boring, but it's downright disgusting. People were trying to kick Harry Potter out of the school? The Old Testament has the main "good guy" advocating genocide, rape, and infanticide. What an original viewpoint. As for the audio suggestion, are there any websites where I can find the bible on?  I found one website, but it stops at every chapter.   -- Posted by exceedinglyrare at 6:11 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from GeneCosta at 8:32 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 It's not really boring, but it's downright disgusting. People were trying to kick Harry Potter out of the school? The Old Testament has the main "good guy" advocating genocide, rape, and infanticide. Only when morons read it. lsd, you should try to check for CDs at Barnes & Noble or various stores like that, or check on iTunes. To be fair, it should be available for free, but off the top of my head, I don't think that it is. -- Posted by SovSull at 6:21 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Deuteronomy 13:12-18 (New American Standard Bible) 12"If you hear in one of your cities, which the LORD your God is giving you to live in, anyone saying that 13some worthless men have gone out from among you and have seduced the inhabitants of their city, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods' (whom you have not known), 14then you shall investigate and search out and inquire thoroughly. If it is true and the matter established that this abomination has been done among you, 15you shall surely strike the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, utterly destroying it and all that is in it and its cattle with the edge of the sword. 16"Then you shall gather all its booty into the middle of its open square and burn the city and all its booty with fire as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God; and it shall be a ruin forever. It shall never be rebuilt. 17"Nothing from that which is put under the ban shall cling to your hand, in order that the LORD may turn from (E)His burning anger and show mercy to you, and have compassion on you and make you increase, just as He has sworn to your fathers, 18if you will listen to the voice of the LORD your God, keeping all His commandments which I am commanding you today, and doing what is right in the sight of the LORD your God. That's a pretty great verse right there. Also notable: Hosea 13:16 (New American Standard Bible)    16Samaria will be held guilty,         For she has rebelled against her God         They will fall by the sword,         Their little ones will be dashed in pieces,         And their pregnant women will be ripped open. And all of Numbers 16 is basically genocidal throat clearing by God. It's some great shit. -- Posted by exceedinglyrare at 6:31 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 What's fun is taking things out of historical context, as usual. Think about it--if you had to tell your people to conquer a land (as Moses did) and you left the sons and daughters and widows of that land alive, wouldn't it make sense that said sons, daughters and widows would eventually rise up against your people, rebel and kill them, or worse, inspire your people to start rebelling against their government and their God? -- Posted by SovSull at 6:40 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 9:31 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 What's fun is taking things out of historical context, as usual. Think about it--if you had to tell your people to conquer a land (as Moses did) and you left the sons and daughters and widows of that land alive, wouldn't it make sense that said sons, daughters and widows would eventually rise up against your people, rebel and kill them, or worse, inspire your people to start rebelling against their government and their God? Sure, but how is killing every man, woman, child and infant the best way of settling the matter? That's a rhetorical question, the real answer is that there isn't any moral justification for swinging your dick around someone else's turf and then slaughtering everyone in the vicinity in the event some poor bastard expresses discontent. -- Posted by exceedinglyrare at 7:11 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from SovSull at 9:40 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Sure, but how is killing every man, woman, child and infant the best way of settling the matter? That's a rhetorical question, the real answer is that there isn't any moral justification for swinging your dick around someone else's turf and then slaughtering everyone in the vicinity in the event some poor bastard expresses discontent. Did I ever say that it was morally correct? No. I just explained the reasoning behind it. This doesn't mean that God condones it, but rather that Moses does and that it therefore became part of the Law. Furthermore, recall that we're looking at a world without grace and that, what's more, there are absolutely no occasions in the Old Testament in which a person was repentant and was still killed despite that repentance. Generally speaking, one ought to read the whole story before dismissing it. -- Posted by SovSull at 7:39 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 10:11 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Did I ever say that it was morally correct? No. I just explained the reasoning behind it. This doesn't mean that God condones it, but rather that Moses does and that it therefore became part of the Law. Right, it's a thoroughly immoral and repulsive reasoning. You asked me to consider being in Moses' position, and KILL KILL KILL wasn't anywhere close to being my first thought. And if God doesn't condone these verses, one wonders why he has someone speaking for him. Frankly, if I were God, authoring (in one way or another) the foundational texts of my religion, I'd probably be peering very closely over the shoulders of the many people who would write and then copy my words through millennia. God isn't a very good copy editor, and I'd argue that his silence on the matter gives consent. Furthermore, recall that we're looking at a world without grace and that, what's more, there are absolutely no occasions in the Old Testament in which a person was repentant and was still killed despite that repentance. Generally speaking, one ought to read the whole story before dismissing it. There's nothing for me to recall given that I have no idea what you mean by "grace." And even if the repentant weren't being killed, it doesn't change the fact they were living under a tyranny. -- Posted by SadnessNTurmoil at 10:01 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from sweetness14 at 2:04 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 All u fucking ppl that diss the bible deserve to go to hell. sorry but that book is holy and the way of life.   bet u didnt kno i was christian. i dont show it.   diss the bible and diss ur own life. unless ur planning on killing urself. the bible has the answers to all ur fucking problems.   dont treat it like shit.   toilet paper? are u damn stupid? that book deserves to be read! it speaks to everyone and ur a pathetic if u dont understand that!   may the bible lead u in all u do. dont diss the book that holds ur future. this conversation should stop. now.   thanx for reading The bible is holy? Lot (The Just and Righteous) Offered his daughters to a group of angel rapers. Book of Genesis 19:8 -- Posted by exceedinglyrare at 5:22 am on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from SovSull at 10:39 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Right, it's a thoroughly immoral and repulsive reasoning. You asked me to consider being in Moses' position, and KILL KILL KILL wasn't anywhere close to being my first thought. And if God doesn't condone these verses, one wonders why he has someone speaking for him. Frankly, if I were God, authoring (in one way or another) the foundational texts of my religion, I'd probably be peering very closely over the shoulders of the many people who would write and then copy my words through millennia. God isn't a very good copy editor, and I'd argue that his silence on the matter gives consent. Consent and condoning are two entirely different things. Haven't you ever heard "If you have to, but I'd rather you not?" as a phrase out of someone's mouth? Frankly, I don't think you understand the history here at all, which is your misfortune.   There's nothing for me to recall given that I have no idea what you mean by "grace." And even if the repentant weren't being killed, it doesn't change the fact they were living under a tyranny. In your opinion, which doesn't really count for much in the grand scheme of things, I'm afraid. -- Posted by amber1991 at 12:35 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from sweetness14 at 2:04 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 All u fucking ppl that diss the bible deserve to go to hell. sorry but that book is holy and the way of life.   bet u didnt kno i was christian. i dont show it.   diss the bible and diss ur own life. unless ur planning on killing urself. the bible has the answers to all ur fucking problems.   dont treat it like shit.   toilet paper? are u damn stupid? that book deserves to be read! it speaks to everyone and ur a pathetic if u dont understand that!   may the bible lead u in all u do. dont diss the book that holds ur future. this conversation should stop. now.   thanx for reading Thank you for being such a good representative of christians. -- Posted by sophos at 5:20 am on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from misssphin233 at 5:57 am on Jan. 8, 2009 ... But the bible is SO BORING. I CAN'T concentrate on it. This is a built-in feature of the bible; the mind-numbing experience is confused for enlightenment. -- Posted by Praise the Lard at 9:52 am on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:22 am on Jan. 9, 2009 In your opinion, which doesn't really count for much in the grand scheme of things, I'm afraid. Why do you get into discussions on forums if you think this way? -- Posted by anonomouse at 7:30 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Read the new testament. It really depends on the book you read. The old testament is boring--it basically only has long genealogies. All it talks about is the Jewish people coming to God, then disobeying him, then coming back to him, etc... If you want to read the bible, at least start out with the four gospels (Matt, Mark, Luke, John). John is my favorite, followed by Luke. (Luke is short). -- Posted by ArtFreak at 4:36 am on Jan. 11, 2009 there's loads of different versions which make it easier and more interesting to read and take in, plenty of atheists admit it's a fantastic book, full of incredible sotries and writing...even if they don't believe it lots of the people who say it's boring, haven't read the best bits of it. I suggest you try the "youth bible" or even "the message" which use more modern language, the youth bible uses stories to relate to which really does make it intereting. -- Posted by GeneCosta at 12:45 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 6:11 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from GeneCosta at 8:32 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 It's not really boring, but it's downright disgusting. People were trying to kick Harry Potter out of the school? The Old Testament has the main "good guy" advocating genocide, rape, and infanticide. Only when morons read it. Touched a nerve, I see. -- Posted by GeneCosta at 12:47 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 6:31 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 What's fun is taking things out of historical context, as usual. Think about it--if you had to tell your people to conquer a land (as Moses did) and you left the sons and daughters and widows of that land alive, wouldn't it make sense that said sons, daughters and widows would eventually rise up against your people, rebel and kill them, or worse, inspire your people to start rebelling against their government and their God? And this is why Satanic theists make more sense defending Lucifer: seriously, are you even reading what you write? So God is a magnificent tactician who can utilize rape and genocide. Wonderful.   -- Posted by GeneCosta at 12:48 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 Quote: from lsd at 5:39 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from GeneCosta at 5:32 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 It's not really boring, but it's downright disgusting. People were trying to kick Harry Potter out of the school? The Old Testament has the main "good guy" advocating genocide, rape, and infanticide. What an original viewpoint.   I don't recall being asked to provide a unique viewpoint on the matter. Pages: 1 2  Next