-- Posted by OodleNoodle at 11:13 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 ...but isn't Hamas a terrorist group? So I'm not understanding all of the hubbub about Israel's attack on them.   I know that civilians are being killed, which is obviously a terrible thing, but Israel had at least attempted to prevent that kind of thing. They phoned people whose homes were going to be bombed to tell them to get out. It was the Hamas leader who chose to ignore the warning and he died and his family with him.   Civilian casualties are obviously horrible - I've seen the carnage and it breaks my heart that innocent people have been killed. But the Palestinians have killed Israelis too. They've been fighting over this for years.   I kind of don't blame them... -- Posted by Charolastra at 11:14 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 they both fucking suck but israel is worse -- Posted by asia lover at 11:15 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 They are both being idiots. -- Posted by Joep0113 at 11:15 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Hama's is hiding behind the civilians = civilian deaths Egypt not allowing civilians to flee into their country = more civilians = more civilian deaths Meh it was bound to happen eventually, what the fuck did Hama's think was going to happen? But yeah Israel should definitely watch the civies more.... -- Posted by OodleNoodle at 11:16 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from charolastra at 11:14 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 they both fucking suck but israel is worse How? Admittedly, I haven't been following this story as close as I should be (back to school and such are my priorities right now) but I am not understanding why Israel is so much worse. -- Posted by psychotickid666 at 11:16 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from charolastra at 2:14 am on Jan. 6, 2009 they both fucking suck but israel is worse isreal is just defending its people against the followers of a rebellious supremesist group -- Posted by Charolastra at 11:18 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from OodleNoodle at 2:16 am on Jan. 6, 2009 Quote: from charolastra at 11:14 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 they both fucking suck but israel is worse How? Admittedly, I haven't been following this story as close as I should be (back to school and such are my priorities right now) but I am not understanding why Israel is so much worse. israel likes to think that they have a racial right for existence in a country that was made for them back in the fifties. right in the middle of palestine. of course palestine is like fuck that, that's our land, but israel likes to think they are meant to be there, so they've always been fighting; israel is trying to racially purify their land because apparently 'jewish' is a race etc etc correct me if i'm wrong -- Posted by OodleNoodle at 11:19 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from charolastra at 11:18 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from OodleNoodle at 2:16 am on Jan. 6, 2009 Quote: from charolastra at 11:14 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 they both fucking suck but israel is worse    How?    Admittedly, I haven't been following this story as close as I should be (back to school and such are my priorities right now) but I am not understanding why Israel is so much worse. israel likes to think that they have a racial right for existence in a country that was made for them back in the fifties. right in the middle of palestine. of course palestine is like fuck that, that's our land, but israel likes to think they are meant to be there, so they've always been fighting; israel is trying to racially purify their land because apparently 'jewish' is a race etc etc correct me if i'm wrong I don't think Jewish is a race, no. But Palestine doesn't have clean hands either. They've killed plenty of Israelis. -- Posted by Charolastra at 11:21 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 like i said they aren't innocent either of course and no, to the zionist israelis, 'jewish' is a race -- Posted by August Rush at 11:22 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 it's just like the KKK, or Christians being in control of the white house.. -- Posted by lucid dreams19 at 11:22 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 THey will always fight. -- Posted by Joep0113 at 11:28 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from charolastra at 11:18 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from OodleNoodle at 2:16 am on Jan. 6, 2009 Quote: from charolastra at 11:14 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 they both fucking suck but israel is worse How? Admittedly, I haven't been following this story as close as I should be (back to school and such are my priorities right now) but I am not understanding why Israel is so much worse.   israel likes to think that they have a racial right for existence in a country that was made for them back in the fifties. right in the middle of palestine. of course palestine is like fuck that, that's our land, but israel likes to think they are meant to be there, so they've always been fighting; israel is trying to racially purify their land because apparently 'jewish' is a race etc etc correct me if i'm wrong Now i might be wrong but lets go back 2009 years and that was Roman land. Go back a few more hundred years and it is Israeli land, Kingdom of Judea. Yeah not quite sure what England was thinking when they decided to plop down a country filled with Jews which were hated by everyone surrounding them, then again wouldn't make much sense to put the Jewish state out India or some old British African colony land. Any who back to the here and now, last time i checked..... Israel first said, "Fuck it, take it" and gave away Gaza. After that they embargoed it, which was kind of a bitch move but its non-violent. Then after being given land they realize that they can't survive economically without Israel and Hama's is born from the mis-guided people. They start modifying rockets to carry explosives and modify it so it can travel farther, they call it the Quassam (spelled right?) and start launching them into Israel over the past few years. Seriously, what the fuck did Hama's think was going to happen? And for Israel aggression is the only foreign policy they know, which is kind of justified when you look at their neighbors. "It is far safer to be feared, then loved" - Machiavelli Correct me if im wrong, its late Agreed on the Jewish race part. If Jewish is a race then i demand Livewirian be recognized as one. -- Posted by lalacakes at 9:10 am on Jan. 8, 2009 no one cares, stop posting pointlesss posts. -- Posted by OodleNoodle at 2:12 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from lalacakes at 9:10 am on Jan. 8, 2009 no one cares, stop posting pointlesss posts. Sorry that you don't care about the world around you. Don't like the topic, don't post in it. Dumbass.