Pages: 1 2 3 4 5  Next -- Posted by Anonymous at 9:01 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Why do white people complain so much about being treated badly? I mean minorities deal with a lot worst discrimination and that is why they are so strong, sassy and what not. There are a lot of white people that complain over the simplest little hints of discrimination as if they are the victims. Honestly I just don't get it..... It's like if they experience discrimination they go " See this is why whites are the most discriminated against". Well not meaning to be rude but many minorities have already been there and are still there till this day and it's much worst......... I mean I understand if your the only white person in a group and you feel discriminated against but as a whole I wouldn't say whites are less advantaged, more discriminated against than minorities. I know that whites are not the victims in the U.S.A though. Maybe with petty little racial slurs and crap but not real real real serious life changing hate crimes as much as minorities have been through. -- Posted by Lynzlicious at 9:02 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 'cause they're white, it's what they do. Bitch and moan about shit. -- Posted by carracer at 9:04 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Who knows. They like complaining. For god sakes I am made up of multiple minorities and I don't complain. -- Posted by Just Waiting Here at 9:05 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Again it comes down to this... are you really not allowed to complain just because others have it worse.  It's like how some people tell others they shouldn't be upset because there are people in other countries without food.  Yes... this is true, and I'm not saying those people don't deserve consideration... but does that mean that people aren't allowed to be upset or depressed... and likewise, does that mean that whites are not allowed to be upset if they are discriminated against? I can understand your point if they are saying that they have the worst form of racial discrimination... but if you are discriminated against, that's still discrimination.  Just because someone else may have experienced worse does not mean that the individual has no right to say anything.  If that was the case, then no one is justified in complaining or venting about ~anything~. -- Posted by Baron Samedi at 9:06 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Because they can. -- Posted by Anonymous at 9:08 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 9:05 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Again it comes down to this... are you really not allowed to complain just because others have it worse. It's like how some people tell others they shouldn't be upset because there are people in other countries without food. Yes... this is true, and I'm not saying those people don't deserve consideration... but does that mean that people aren't allowed to be upset or depressed... and likewise, does that mean that whites are not allowed to be upset if they are discriminated against? I can understand your point if they are saying that they have the worst form of racial discrimination... but if you are discriminated against, that's still discrimination. Just because someone else may have experienced worse does not mean that the individual has no right to say anything. If that was the case, then no one is justified in complaining or venting about ~anything~. Yeah, no one should ever settle for less but when you talk like some people on this forum as if the minorities are the ones with the advantage then your just wanting to be the victim when your not. Sure no one should be discriminated against but you shouldn't be insensitive and go " Oh blacks don't have it so bad, us whites are the real ones suffering" despite the fact that a lot of whites have more opportunities than blacks in America. See what I mean? It just annoys me sometimes because the ones usually saying this are the prejudice ones who think everything has to be about white people and that they are suffering because of minorities yata yata yata. -- Posted by MischaELLE at 9:10 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 hahah i agree. them white folk are whiney little bitches -- Posted by Just Waiting Here at 9:11 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Quote: from Anonymous at 9:08 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 9:05 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Again it comes down to this... are you really not allowed to complain just because others have it worse.  It's like how some people tell others they shouldn't be upset because there are people in other countries without food.  Yes... this is true, and I'm not saying those people don't deserve consideration... but does that mean that people aren't allowed to be upset or depressed... and likewise, does that mean that whites are not allowed to be upset if they are discriminated against?    I can understand your point if they are saying that they have the worst form of racial discrimination... but if you are discriminated against, that's still discrimination.  Just because someone else may have experienced worse does not mean that the individual has no right to say anything.  If that was the case, then no one is justified in complaining or venting about ~anything~. Yeah, no one should ever settle for less but when you talk like some people on this forum as if the minorities are the ones with the advantage then your just wanting to be the victim when your not. Sure no one should be discriminated against but you shouldn't be insensitive and go " Oh blacks don't have it so bad, us whites are the real ones suffering" despite the fact that a lot of whites have more opportunities than blacks in America. See what I mean? It just annoys me sometimes because the ones usually saying this are the prejudice ones who think everything has to be about white people and that they are suffering because of minorities yata yata yata. ~that~ I can understand.  It's one thing to be against something or complain about something... but if you complain about something, and then likewise undermine someone else's reasons to complain about the same thing, then that's basically hypocrisy.  Whether or not blacks or whites have it worse (though in the past, and still today it's more or less clear that blacks have a greater deal of racial discrimination towards them), isn't the issue... I can understand the irritation, especially when someone tries to make it like a 'competition' and say, "I have it worse". -- Posted by Forgot My Name at 9:21 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 This is what makes me want to kill every fucking minority. Why the fuck are you anonymous? Fucking pussy. -- Posted by Anonymous at 9:23 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Quote: from Forgot my name at 9:21 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 This is what makes me want to kill every fucking minority. Why the fuck are you anonymous? Fucking pussy. I just rather not get a box of flame in my message box. I mean the anonymous option is for a reason right? Kill every minority? Someone needs to kill you........ -- Posted by Forgot My Name at 9:25 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Quote: from Anonymous at 9:23 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Quote: from Forgot my name at 9:21 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 This is what makes me want to kill every fucking minority. Why the fuck are you anonymous? Fucking pussy. I just rather not get a box of flame in my message box. I mean the anonymous option is for a reason right? Kill every minority? Someone needs to kill you........ Good, Kill me, fucking pussy. I hardly ever get messages. -- Posted by Bud2400 at 9:25 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 So largely because white people, as a whole, are better off than most minorities in the US, any white individual who complains about any discrimination against them in a whiner?  A white individual can be continually pushed, shoved, harrassed, and even mugged by a minority claiming "payment" for ills against their race by white people, but should just shrug it off?  Now, I'm not saying that this is necessarily a common occurrence, but it's certainly not unknown. It's pretty amazing to me how many people take it for granted that white individuals can be discriminated against in a very serious way.  If there's one thing white people bitch about, it's how racism by whites against minorities is emphasized to such an extent that racism by minorities against whites is often overlooked.  And to be quite honest, this is a valid reason to get pretty miffed over. -- Posted by Anonymous at 9:34 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Quote: from Bud2400 at 9:25 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 So largely because white people, as a whole, are better off than most minorities in the US, any white individual who complains about any discrimination against them in a whiner? A white individual can be continually pushed, shoved, harrassed, and even mugged by a minority claiming "payment" for ills against their race by white people, but should just shrug it off? Now, I'm not saying that this is necessarily a common occurrence, but it's certainly not unknown. It's pretty amazing to me how many people take it for granted that white individuals can be discriminated against in a very serious way. If there's one thing white people bitch about, it's how racism by whites against minorities is emphasized to such an extent that racism by minorities against whites is often overlooked. And to be quite honest, this is a valid reason to get pretty miffed over. That's not what I said. Maybe you should read a little more on what I just said. I said that if a white tries to say they have it worst than a minority like less opportunities.  Read my last 2 posts and then get back to me   -- Posted by Bud2400 at 9:55 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Quote: from Anonymous at 9:34 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 That's not what I said. Maybe you should read a little more on what I just said. I said that if a white tries to say they have it worst than a minority like less opportunities.  Read my last 2 posts and then get back to me   Why not analyze your original post, shall we? Quote: from Anonymous at 9:01 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Why do white people complain so much about being treated badly? I mean minorities deal with a lot worst discrimination and that is why they are so strong, sassy and what not. There are a lot of white people that complain over the simplest little hints of discrimination as if they are the victims. Honestly I just don't get it..... What do you mean by "discrimination"? Are we talking on an individual basis or collective basis? You're saying in this paragraph that white people, or alternatively white individuals, complain over the tiniest bits of discrimination and that minorities have it much worse, even today. As a result of your language here (primarily the way you use "white people"), I'm taking it that you're referring to white individuals.   It's like if they experience discrimination they go " See this is why whites are the most discriminated against". Again, another example that you're referring to an inividual level of discrimination. You're passing off the white individual's claims that he or she was discriminated against by a minority as nothing. But that is not to say that what you said is entirely without merit. That white individual using their personal example and applying it to all white people may perhaps be a little fallacious, but again, you're referring to the individual level of discrimination in this example, not the collective.   Well not meaning to be rude but many minorities have already been there and are still there till this day and it's much worst......... Your post is extremely vague. If what you were referring to was the collective level of discrimination (ie. blacks buying property and that neighborhood getting redlined for having black residents, thus causing land value to go down in the entire neighborhood), then you did a very poor job of specifying what you were referring to. Because what you referred to previously was an individual level of discrimination (ie. a more personal level), I'm assuming that this is what you are referring to here. As a result, I would ask you this: what's worse? A white individual getting mugged by a group of black individuals because they're white or a black individual getting mugged by a group of white individuals because they're black? Judging by your paragraph, you're advocating that a non-white individual getting mugged because of their race is worse than a white individual getting mugged because of their race. I mean I understand if your the only white person in a group and you feel discriminated against but as a whole I wouldn't say whites are less advantaged, more discriminated against than minorities. Here's where you finally refer to the collective level of discriminatio, yet because of what you said earlier, I'm not entirely sure whether or not you take personal anecdotes of white individuals being discriminated against so seriously. I know that whites are not the victims in the U.S.A though. Maybe with petty little racial slurs and crap but not real real real serious life changing hate crimes as much as minorities have been through. Here's where you actually deny that white individuals have really suffered from a hate crime. Yet take it from me, racial discrimination on a personal level is a very serious matter, whether white or black.  It can be very life changing and hurtful to anyone. Just because a white individual may have it better off collectively doesn't mean that individually they do - the collective is only the average, and very often individuals fall above and below the average.  That's what makes it a general tendency and not the standard for every individual in that group. You're failing to separate the two scales because they are imperative in understanding discrimination at any level. -- Posted by Anonymous at 2:42 pm on Dec. 9, 2008 Quote: from Bud2400 at 9:55 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Quote: from Anonymous at 9:34 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 That's not what I said. Maybe you should read a little more on what I just said. I said that if a white tries to say they have it worst than a minority like less opportunities. Read my last 2 posts and then get back to me   Why not analyze your original post, shall we?   Quote: from Anonymous at 9:01 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 Why do white people complain so much about being treated badly? I mean minorities deal with a lot worst discrimination and that is why they are so strong, sassy and what not. There are a lot of white people that complain over the simplest little hints of discrimination as if they are the victims. Honestly I just don't get it..... What do you mean by "discrimination"?  Are we talking on an individual basis or collective basis? You're saying in this paragraph that white people, or alternatively white individuals, complain over the tiniest bits of discrimination and that minorities have it much worse, even today.  As a result of your language here (primarily the way you use "white people"), I'm taking it that you're referring to white individuals. It's like if they experience discrimination they go " See this is why whites are the most discriminated against". Again, another example that you're referring to an inividual level of discrimination.  You're passing off the white individual's claims that he or she was discriminated against by a minority as nothing. But that is not to say that what you said is entirely without merit.  That white individual using their personal example and applying it to all white people may perhaps be a little fallacious, but again, you're referring to the individual level of discrimination in this example, not the collective. Well not meaning to be rude but many minorities have already been there and are still there till this day and it's much worst......... Your post is extremely vague.  If what you were referring to was the collective level of discrimination (ie. blacks buying property and that neighborhood getting redlined for having black residents, thus causing land value to go down in the entire neighborhood), then you did a very poor job of specifying what you were referring to.  Because what you referred to previously was an individual level of discrimination (ie. a more personal level), I'm assuming that this is what you are referring to here. As a result, I would ask you this: what's worse?  A white individual getting mugged by a group of black individuals because they're white or a black individual getting mugged by a group of white individuals because they're black?  Judging by your paragraph, you're advocating that a non-white individual getting mugged because of their race is worse than a white individual getting mugged because of their race. I mean I understand if your the only white person in a group and you feel discriminated against but as a whole I wouldn't say whites are less advantaged, more discriminated against than minorities. Here's where you finally refer to the collective level of discriminatio, yet because of what you said earlier, I'm not entirely sure whether or not you take personal anecdotes of white individuals being discriminated against so seriously. I know that whites are not the victims in the U.S.A though. Maybe with petty little racial slurs and crap but not real real real serious life changing hate crimes as much as minorities have been through. Here's where you actually deny that white individuals have really suffered from a hate crime.  Yet take it from me, racial discrimination on a personal level is a very serious matter, whether white or black. It can be very life changing and hurtful to anyone.  Just because a white individual may have it better off collectively doesn't mean that individually they do - the collective is only the average, and very often individuals fall above and below the average. That's what makes it a general tendency and not the standard for every individual in that group.  You're failing to separate the two scales because they are imperative in understanding discrimination at any level. You still misunderstand. When I say white people " I mean a lot of white individuals feelings". This post just goes out to them. Also I am not denying that whites are discriminated against nor am I saying that their discrimination should be treated as nothing. No one should be discriminated against.  Your thinking too hard so you miss the point of this topic. The point is that yeah a white persons discrimination can be just as bad and should be taken just as seriously as a minorities. But, saying that whites have it worst in America than minorities do is just false. That's the point because I see people saying all the time that Minorities have it better than whites and they don't. That doesn't mean that I take discrimination against a white less seriously if it does happen. I am saying that you can't just say your race is more of a victim than the minorities of the U.S.A. I mean the point I am trying to make is that you can't just say you have it worst than the minority. Especially if the country is mostly white and has most whites in power. That isn't saying that whites can't complain about discrimination. The point I am making is more of a hypocrisy thing. I See white people going " Well whites have it worst so blacks should shutup about their discrimination". The very thing you think I am doing is what I am against....... -- Posted by JasonHot at 2:48 pm on Dec. 9, 2008 this is one of the most pointless threads ive seen on LW.  grrrrrr. -- Posted by Anonymous at 3:09 pm on Dec. 9, 2008 Quote: from JasonHot at 2:48 pm on Dec. 9, 2008 this is one of the most pointless threads ive seen on LW. grrrrrr. I don't find it pointless. This topic can answer a lot of questions =/ Actually any topic can if it's not just spam....... -- Posted by Chava at 3:50 pm on Dec. 9, 2008 Quote: from Anonymous at 12:23 am on Dec. 9, 2008 Quote: from Forgot my name at 9:21 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 This is what makes me want to kill every fucking minority. Why the fuck are you anonymous? Fucking pussy. I just rather not get a box of flame in my message box. I mean the anonymous option is for a reason right? Kill every minority? Someone needs to kill you........ You have a delete button right? I know I do maybe minorities don't get them because they're discriminated against? -- Posted by austin s23 at 5:11 pm on Dec. 9, 2008 Quote: from Lynzlicious at 11:02 pm on Dec. 8, 2008 'cause they're white, it's what they do. Bitch and moan about shit. i 2nd this -- Posted by jakelong at 1:08 am on Dec. 10, 2008 What I find funny is that no one noticed that those who bitch on LW the most about being fucked over ARE white...see KR, FMN, etc... -- Posted by GoloSLB at 2:36 am on Dec. 10, 2008 I'm pretty sure I've been through a life-changing hate crime because I'm white.  Everyone's situation is different.  Don't think that someone doesn't know what real discrimination is because of the color of their skin. -- Posted by Anonymous at 1:14 pm on Dec. 10, 2008 Quote: from GoloSLB at 2:36 am on Dec. 10, 2008 I'm pretty sure I've been through a life-changing hate crime because I'm white. Everyone's situation is different. Don't think that someone doesn't know what real discrimination is because of the color of their skin. I never said that though. In fact I already explained twice on how that's not what I meant. -- Posted by kidd rune at 2:14 pm on Dec. 10, 2008 Quote: from jakelong at 4:08 am on Dec. 10, 2008 What I find funny is that no one noticed that those who bitch on LW the most about being fucked over ARE white...see KR, FMN, etc... Explain how we're "Fucked up" - and try not to lie. You usually do when you say things about me. -- Posted by neotreo at 2:49 pm on Dec. 10, 2008 Quote: from Lynzlicious at 12:02 am on Dec. 9, 2008 'cause they're white, it's what they do. Bitch and moan about shit. gtfo... now! -- Posted by neotreo at 2:51 pm on Dec. 10, 2008 Quote: from MischaELLE at 12:10 am on Dec. 9, 2008 hahah i agree. them white folk are whiney little bitches gtfo right now -- Posted by neotreo at 2:51 pm on Dec. 10, 2008 Quote: from Forgot my name at 12:21 am on Dec. 9, 2008 This is what makes me want to kill every fucking minority. Why the fuck are you anonymous? Fucking pussy. agreed -- Posted by neotreo at 2:53 pm on Dec. 10, 2008 Quote: from Bud2400 at 12:25 am on Dec. 9, 2008 So largely because white people, as a whole, are better off than most minorities in the US, any white individual who complains about any discrimination against them in a whiner?  A white individual can be continually pushed, shoved, harrassed, and even mugged by a minority claiming "payment" for ills against their race by white people, but should just shrug it off?  Now, I'm not saying that this is necessarily a common occurrence, but it's certainly not unknown. It's pretty amazing to me how many people take it for granted that white individuals can be discriminated against in a very serious way.  If there's one thing white people bitch about, it's how racism by whites against minorities is emphasized to such an extent that racism by minorities against whites is often overlooked.  And to be quite honest, this is a valid reason to get pretty miffed over. thank you -- Posted by Anonymous at 2:56 pm on Dec. 10, 2008 Quote: from neotreo at 2:53 pm on Dec. 10, 2008 Quote: from Bud2400 at 12:25 am on Dec. 9, 2008 So largely because white people, as a whole, are better off than most minorities in the US, any white individual who complains about any discrimination against them in a whiner? A white individual can be continually pushed, shoved, harrassed, and even mugged by a minority claiming "payment" for ills against their race by white people, but should just shrug it off? Now, I'm not saying that this is necessarily a common occurrence, but it's certainly not unknown.    It's pretty amazing to me how many people take it for granted that white individuals can be discriminated against in a very serious way. If there's one thing white people bitch about, it's how racism by whites against minorities is emphasized to such an extent that racism by minorities against whites is often overlooked. And to be quite honest, this is a valid reason to get pretty miffed over. thank you You obviously have been only reading the responses in favor of your opinion and just skimming over the others.... If you read everything you would know what I meant and I wouldn't have to keep saying it. -- Posted by Jazzy Jeff at 2:58 pm on Dec. 10, 2008 Every group whether it be race/clique/organization complains to be strikingly honest. Sure at times it may seem that whites can ride the whiney wagon in all their talks of superiority and being better than everyone else, but saying they don't have the right to complain is kind of stupid. Complaining isn't exactly an admired trait anyway. -- Posted by Anonymous at 2:59 pm on Dec. 10, 2008 Quote: from Jazzy Jeff at 2:58 pm on Dec. 10, 2008 Every group whether it be race/clique/organization complains to be strikingly honest.   Sure at times it may seem that whites can ride the whiney wagon in all their talks of superiority and being better than everyone else, but saying they don't have the right to complain is kind of stupid. Complaining isn't exactly an admired trait anyway. Again, I am tired of having to repeat myself. I am not saying whites do not have the right to complain. Pages: 1 2 3 4 5  Next