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-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:22 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Do you agree with the following rights:

   1. All races have a right to be unique and different, to be themselves, and to love, value and be proud of what they are.


   2. All races have a right to have their existence and identity recognized, respected and protected, to define, affirm and celebrate their existence and identity, and to promote their legitimate rights and interests.


   3. All races have a right to racial life, a right to live, a right to exist as what they are and preserve what they are, a right to exist as a separate form of life, and a right to the conditions they require for continued life, existence and evolution.


   4. All races have a right to independence and peaceful self-determination, to racial freedom and liberty, to separate development, to exclusive control of their own life and existence, their own future and destiny, free from domination, control or interference by other races.


   5. All races have a right to their own living space or territory, to possession of their own racial homeland, to exist within secure borders, to have and hold their own country, separate from and exclusive of other races, as a condition required for both their continued life and independence.


   6. All races have a right to self-government, to their own sovereign and fully independent government to govern their own country, their own life and existence, and determine their own future.


   7. All races have a right to the affections and loyalties, love and care of their members, and this right takes precedence over any ideology -- or system of beliefs and values -- that would promote disaffection or alienation of loyalties, or censure racial love and caring.


   8. All races have a right to exclusive control over the creation, upbringing, development and education of their own children, to control over their own reproduction -- the renewal of their racial life, the transmission of their genes and culture to successor generations -- free of interference by other races.


   9. All races have a right to racial integrity, to exclusivity, reproductive isolation and geographic separation, to be free, safe and secure from the racially destructive effects of racial intermixture and replacement.


   10. All races have a right to the material product of their own creation, and to use that product for their own benefit, free of any claim upon it by other races.


-- Posted by SpM at 5:23 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

No.

edit: And if all the "Yes" voters could just post to confirm they actually read the post and aren't just choosing the side that appears more politically correct, that'd be great.


-- Posted by EmbraceTheHate at 5:24 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

white power.


-- Posted by mcgroove at 5:24 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

yes! WHats the diff basically, were born the same, we eat the same (Some people may eat through tubes) Were humans! Fuck lions ect they can have their own discussion about race


-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:24 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from SpM at 5:23 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


No.
Why?


Quote: from Fire37 at 5:24 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


white power.
Die in a fire.


-- Posted by SpM at 5:25 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from mcgroove at 1:24 am on Sep. 2, 2008


yes! WHats the diff basically, were born the same, we eat the same (Some people may eat through tubes) Were humans! Fuck lions ect they can have their own discussion about race

READ IT. Fuck.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:25 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from mcgroove at 5:24 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


yes! WHats the diff basically, were born the same, we eat the same (Some people may eat through tubes) Were humans! Fuck lions ect they can have their own discussion about race
We have differences that should be preserved.


-- Posted by HaitianGURL67 at 5:25 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from Fire37 at 5:24 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


white power.

Perfect example.like come on! wtf is wrong with you people!


-- Posted by SpM at 5:26 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 1:24 am on Sep. 2, 2008


Why?

Because race, purely in and of itself, is irrelevant to almost every aspect of human existence.


-- Posted by drkberry at 5:26 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Anything this troll says i just have to disagree with, I can't tolerate him anymore.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:27 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from SpM at 5:26 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


Quote: from kidd rune at 1:24 am on Sep. 2, 2008

Why?

Because race, purely in and of itself, is irrelevant to almost every aspect of human existence.

Oh, is it? I would like to see an argument in defense of this.


-- Posted by Ancient Rights at 5:28 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

I do not agree. The most predominant issues I have with it are with the governing and isolation. Different races will always interact with each other. Sure, a race founding its own laws sounds good on the top, but this leads to different laws being established close together, causing turbulence. Governing by the masses, regardless of race is most effective. And since when has racial intermixture caused destructive effects? Yes, it has in the past, but more often than not advances are made in society, technology and standards of living when two or more races come into contact. And isolation will just hold humanity back as a whole, as well as bring about issues like dividing lands and distributing it in a  fair way, it just won't work. Sure, be proud of your heritage, but don't let that govern your actions, we are all people.


-- Posted by DemolitionxXxLover at 5:29 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from HaitianGurl67 at 8:25 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


Quote: from Fire37 at 5:24 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

white power.

Perfect example.like come on! wtf is wrong with you people!



Read.
"All races have a right to be unique and different, to be themselves, and to love, value and be proud of what they are. "


-- Posted by drkberry at 5:31 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Asian, Black, Hispanic, Native american Power!!!!!


-- Posted by Shaknbake at 5:31 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Disagree. I don't believe racial self-determination is ultimately desirable. Right to one's own racial homeland is a particular issue; one way or another, some groups are getting a better deal than others.

Or, do you propose the removal of all White Australians, South Africans, Americans, New Zealanders et al. to European soil?


-- Posted by igotaquestion at 5:31 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

I don't agree, people shouldn't be isolated based on race


-- Posted by Shaknbake at 5:32 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from drkberry at 5:31 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


Asian, Black, Hispanic, Native american Power!!!!!

Don't be a moron.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:32 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


And since when has racial intermixture caused destructive effects?
Portugal, Rome, Greece, Egypt, India, and South Africa to name A FEW.



but more often than not advances are made in society, technology and standards of living when two or more races come into contact
Really? I'd like to see some proof of this. Most civilizations that are the basis for our way of life died out because of racial mixing or nonwhite domination by population.



And isolation will just hold humanity back as a whole
Quite the opposite actually. Most Civilizations prospered BECAUSE they were racially pure.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:33 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from igotaquestion at 5:31 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


I don't agree, people shouldn't be isolated based on race
Then race will die and your wish will be granted.

But, for those of us that want to live, we will separate ourselves.


-- Posted by SpM at 5:34 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 1:27 am on Sep. 2, 2008


Quote: from SpM at 5:26 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 1:24 am on Sep. 2, 2008

Why?
 
 Because race, purely in and of itself, is irrelevant to almost every aspect of human existence.

Oh, is it? I would like to see an argument in defense of this.


Very slightly divergent evolutionary paths have led to some minor and vaguely defined genetic differences between (again vaguely defined) groups of people.

Aside from any social side effects, I see no importance whatsoever.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:35 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


Or, do you propose the removal of all White Australians, South Africans, Americans, New Zealanders et al. to European soil?
If all races went back to their homelands, I'd like that. But, what about all of the mixed race people? They have no place.


I think a fairly sized nation should exist for only whites. Therefore, it can prosper without the threat of dying out.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:37 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from SpM at 5:34 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


Quote: from kidd rune at 1:27 am on Sep. 2, 2008

Quote: from SpM at 5:26 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 1:24 am on Sep. 2, 2008

Why?

  Because race, purely in and of itself, is irrelevant to almost every aspect of human existence.

Oh, is it? I would like to see an argument in defense of this.


Very slightly divergent evolutionary paths have led to some minor and vaguely defined genetic differences between (again vaguely defined) groups of people.

Aside from any social side effects, I see no importance whatsoever.


Therefore, you think that if Neanderthals were resurrected, we could live in harmony with them, even with their apparent differences? They have a very slight genetic difference to humans, but are a WHOLE different species.


And answer this, do you think race is skin deep?


-- Posted by drkberry at 5:37 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Non whites should have mroe babies. If you can't fight the racist bastards than outnumber them.


-- Posted by Shaknbake at 5:38 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 5:35 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


If all races went back to their homelands, I'd like that. But, what about all of the mixed race people? They have no place.

Fit them into the society they're most closely related to and oblige them to breed only with pure individuals, and as you have already discussed with another member, their genes will be diluted to the point of non-continuity within the population.
 


I think a fairly sized nation should exist for only whites. Therefore, it can prosper without the threat of dying out.

And a fairly sized nation allotted to every definable distinct race as well? Who gets to choose the real estate?


-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:41 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


Non whites should have mroe babies. If you can't fight the racist bastards than outnumber them.
I like how you call us all racist, and nonwhites not racist. I also like to see how you want to use an animalistic, inhumane, and savage way of coming about this. Sadly, many people think the same as you.


And a fairly sized nation allotted to every definable distinct race as well? Who gets to choose the real estate?
There are only five races in the world. Look at population amounts, homelands, and decide from there.


-- Posted by drkberry at 5:42 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Here's a thought ...GO BACK TO EUROPE!!!!!!


-- Posted by SpM at 5:43 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 1:37 am on Sep. 2, 2008


Therefore, you think that if Neanderthals were resurrected, we could live in harmony with them, even with their apparent differences? They have a very slight genetic difference to humans, but are a WHOLE different species.

 
And answer this, do you think race is skin deep?



It is obviously very difficult to express quite how slight the difference is, as the genetic difference between humans and dolphins is very slight. I could keep repeating "very" until my fingers ache if you'd like.

And no. The idea that genetic variation would be miraculously confined only to appearance is absurd.


-- Posted by drkberry at 5:43 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

I have no fucking problem with white people or any race for that matter, but i do have problems with people who think they're superior.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:45 pm on Sep. 1, 2008

Quote: from drkberry at 5:42 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


Here's a thought ...GO BACK TO EUROPE!!!!!!
Europe is filled with nonwhites and, in 70 years, whites will be less than 50% of the population. Sub-Saharan Africa will be 99% Sub-Saharan African and Asia will be 99% Asian (the original inhabitants wise).


Europe isn't really a white homeland as you all claim. Take the nonwhites out, then you're in business.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:48 pm on Sep. 1, 2008


It is obviously very difficult to express quite how slight the difference is, as the genetic difference between humans and dolphins is very slight. I could keep repeating "very" until my fingers ache if you'd like.

And no. The idea that genetic variation would be miraculously confined only to appearance is absurd.


Good. As you should know, that very slight difference can be held accountable for MANY differences., differences that have contributed to humanity.

Go to the pet store and get a bulldog. Train him to act like a Poodle. Now, after he's fully grown, see if he acts like a poodle or a Bulldog.

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