Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic only one way to prove obama isn't a muslim terrorist... Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]jakelong[/m] at 12:31 am on Sep. 18, 2008[quote]More proof that McCain is a friend of Zionism [quote]Jeffrey Goldberg: [b]Is the Zionist cause just, and has it succeeded?[/b] John McCain: [b]I think so. I'm a student of history and anybody who is familiar with the history of the Jewish people and with the Zionist idea can't help but admire those who established the Jewish homeland.[/b] I think it's remarkable that [b]Zionism has been in the middle of wars and great trials and it has held fast to the ideals of democracy and social justice and human rights.[/b] I think that the State of Israel remains under significant threat from terrorist organizations as well as the continued advocacy of the Iranians to wipe Israel off the map. JG: Do you think the Palestinian cause is just? JM: In respect to people like Mahmoud Abbas, who want to have a peaceful settlement with the government of Israel, to settle their differences in a peaceful and amicable fashion. If you are talking about Hamas or Hezbollah, which are dedicated to the extinction of the state of Israel, then no. It depends on who you're talking about. JG: Senator Obama told me that the Arab-Israeli dispute is a "constant sore" that infects our foreign policy. Do you think this is true, and do you think that the Arab-Israeli dispute is central to our challenges in the Middle East? JM: Well, I certainly would not describe it the way Senator Obama did - JG: He wasn't referring to Israel as an "open sore," he was referring to the conflict. JM: I don't think the conflict is a sore. I think it's a national security challenge. I think it's important to achieve peace in the Middle East on a broad variety of fronts and I think that if the Israeli-Palestinian issue were decided tomorrow, we would still face the enormous threat of radical Islamic extremism.   I think it's very vital, don't get me wrong. That's why I've spent so much time there. The first time I visited Israel was thirty years ago, with Scoop Jackson and other senators, when I was in the Navy. I visited Yad Vashem (Israel's Holocaust memorial) with Joe Lieberman the last time I was in Israel. So my absolute commitment is to peace between Israel and the Palestinians. [b]But the dangers that we face in the Middle East are incredibly severe, in the form of radical Islamic extremists.[/b] JG: Do you think that Israel is better off today than it was eight years ago? JM: I think Israel, in many respects, is stronger economically, their political process shows progress - when there is corruption, they punish people who are corrupt. The economy is booming, they have a robust democracy, to say the least. Bin Laden has not limited his hatred and desire to destroy the United States to the Israeli-Palestinian issue, though Israel is one of the objects of his jihadist attitude. [/quote] http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_on_israel_iran_and_the_1.php But hey we know that abs dont mind pro-israeli zionists feminazis if they get the Repukes in the White House and keep it WHITE! :biggrin:   Vote Obama if you want mulsim terrorist to win! :cool: [/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post whoisabs Posted at 12:14 am on Sep. 18, 2008 throw trillions of us tax dollars at Israel every year.

Replies jakelong Posted at 8:40 pm on Sep. 23, 2008 Hey we all know McCain is the best support of Israel!   whoisabs Posted at 8:24 pm on Sep. 23, 2008 Don't forget about the lol of the JSF project. obvious child Posted at 8:20 pm on Sep. 23, 2008 If the US was giving israel its defense tech, then they would have given israel the laser missile defense system, but alas they did not. Based on what reasoning? Just because they are similar, does not mean they are the same. No one argued that. But if you take parts and pieces and tech from one and place them into another with a few new additions, have you really invented the new weapon? i know israel bought the essentials from other countries. Many NOT being the United States. I also know they have improved just about everything they have received. So much for inventing their own weapons bullshit. They did invent it. Really. Read the wiki article. If that was true, why does the US retain the right to prevent direct technological break through from the Lavi to other countries? The US scrapped an Israeli plan to sell Lavi tech to India. "They" invented it? Really. carracer Posted at 6:58 pm on Sep. 23, 2008 Quote: from obvious child at 6:52 pm on Sep. 23, 2008And if you read that article, you'd notice that the US co-funded and provided much of the technology for the arrow missile system. Furthermore the Arrow is directly derived from the Patriot Missile system, the PAC-1 (not the 2nd or 3rd). The Arrow has so much US tech that the US has the right to deny Israeli sales of the arrow to other countries. Inventing their own shit my ass. The wikipedia link for the Merkava details the numerous parts that the Isrealis bought from other countries. The gun system for the Mk4 is German. The engine is german as well! General Dynamics Land Systems is the largest contractor and guess where they are incorporated? Do you not know what the difference between 2000 and 1990 are? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15E_Strike_Eagle#F-15I Really. I have the internet too. Just because the Lavi wasn't finished doesn't mean they invented it. Good job for not knowing your facts. Better luck next time. Care to discuss why Israel constantly spies on the US and its weapons programs? Avoiding that eh? If the US was giving israel its defense tech, then they would have given israel the laser missile defense system, but alas they did not. Just because they are similar, does not mean they are the same. i know israel bought the essentials from other countries. Many NOT being the United States. I also know they have improved just about everything they have received. Did you read the article I gave you on the lavi? I didn't think so. They did invent it. " Care to discuss why Israel constantly spies on the US and its weapons programs? Avoiding that eh?" No. Im not avoiding it. I just don't know the answer. The Israeli secret service hasn't told me their intentions. obvious child Posted at 6:52 pm on Sep. 23, 2008 And if you read that article, you'd notice that the US co-funded and provided much of the technology for the arrow missile system. Furthermore the Arrow is directly derived from the Patriot Missile system, the PAC-1 (not the 2nd or 3rd). The Arrow has so much US tech that the US has the right to deny Israeli sales of the arrow to other countries. Inventing their own shit my ass.   The wikipedia link for the Merkava details the numerous parts that the Isrealis bought from other countries. The gun system for the Mk4 is German. The engine is german as well! General Dynamics Land Systems is the largest contractor and guess where they are incorporated? Do you not know what the difference between 2000 and 1990 are?   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15E_Strike_Eagle#F-15I Really. I have the internet too.   Just because the Lavi wasn't finished doesn't mean they invented it.   Good job for not knowing your facts. Better luck next time. Care to discuss why Israel constantly spies on the US and its weapons programs? Avoiding that eh? carracer Posted at 6:30 pm on Sep. 23, 2008 Quote: from obvious child at 6:15 pm on Sep. 23, 2008 Quote: from carracer at 2:31 pm on Sep. 22, 2008  Latin Muscle, israel makes plenty of its own money, and most if not all of its weapons are vietnam war weapons improved upon by teh israeli government.    The USA does not give israel advanced military technology. They invent it themselves.     O'Rly? Care to discuss where the Arrow missile system came from? Care to discuss where the Merkava came from? Care to discuss why the majority of the IAF is flying US made jets including the most upgraded F-15 Eagle? Care to discuss why Israel constantly spies on the US and its weapons programs? Care to discuss who provided technical input and billions for the Lavi?   US military sales to Israel Israel is a fracking welfare state.     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_missile -first paragraph says created by israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava#Merkava_history -israel created. all modern technology israel created, hence why they have one of the most advanced tanks in the world. " Care to discuss why the majority of the IAF is flying US made jets including the most upgraded F-15 Eagle? " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Air_Force#High_Tech_age_.281990_and_beyond.29 Notice the words "bought" and upgraded with Israeli technology. Israel is one of leading technology countries. They have been known to sell various forms of technological improvements, just so you know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi The Lavi was never finished,and the US did not want another advanced aircraft competing on the market. Good job for not knowing your facts. Better luck next time. obvious child Posted at 6:15 pm on Sep. 23, 2008 Quote: from carracer at 2:31 pm on Sep. 22, 2008 Latin Muscle, israel makes plenty of its own money, and most if not all of its weapons are vietnam war weapons improved upon by teh israeli government. The USA does not give israel advanced military technology. They invent it themselves. O'Rly? Care to discuss where the Arrow missile system came from? Care to discuss where the Merkava came from? Care to discuss why the majority of the IAF is flying US made jets including the most upgraded F-15 Eagle? Care to discuss why Israel constantly spies on the US and its weapons programs? Care to discuss who provided technical input and billions for the Lavi? US military sales to Israel Israel is a fracking welfare state. obvious child Posted at 4:59 pm on Sep. 23, 2008 LOL. I love how you all don't get it yet it's so blatantly obvious what he's saying. carracer Posted at 5:31 pm on Sep. 22, 2008 Abs baby. Your a moron. Better embrace it now in your youth then have a shocking realization later. ----- Latin Muscle, israel makes plenty of its own money, and most if not all of its weapons are vietnam war weapons improved upon by teh israeli government. The USA does not give israel advanced military technology. They invent it themselves. Loud Dog Posted at 2:42 am on Sep. 21, 2008 What the fuck are you talking about jakelong Posted at 6:12 pm on Sep. 19, 2008 Good. Then your post is moot. Loud Dog Posted at 11:26 am on Sep. 19, 2008 Hating Zionism =/= Hating Jews jakelong Posted at 10:01 pm on Sep. 18, 2008 you mean hating zionism = hating jews? Loud Dog Posted at 3:31 am on Sep. 18, 2008 Yeah, abs sure does hate jews! Why, I remember that time that... erm... well I'm just sure he does is all! I am jakelong, and my word is law! jakelong Posted at 12:46 am on Sep. 18, 2008 I am sure that is WHY abs is voting for McCain.   Most recent 15 of 20 previous replies displayed.