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whoisabs Posted at 12:14 am on Sep. 18, 2008
throw trillions of us tax dollars at Israel every year.

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jakelong Posted at 8:40 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
Hey we all know McCain is the best support of Israel!  
whoisabs Posted at 8:24 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
Don't forget about the lol of the JSF project.
obvious child Posted at 8:20 pm on Sep. 23, 2008

If the US was giving israel its defense tech, then they would have given israel the laser missile defense system, but alas they did not.

Based on what reasoning?


Just because they are similar, does not mean they are the same.

No one argued that. But if you take parts and pieces and tech from one and place them into another with a few new additions, have you really invented the new weapon?


i know israel bought the essentials from other countries. Many NOT being the United States. I also know they have improved just about everything they have received.

So much for inventing their own weapons bullshit.


They did invent it.

Really. Read the wiki article. If that was true, why does the US retain the right to prevent direct technological break through from the Lavi to other countries? The US scrapped an Israeli plan to sell Lavi tech to India. "They" invented it? Really.

carracer Posted at 6:58 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
Quote: from obvious child at 6:52 pm on Sep. 23, 2008And if you read that article, you'd notice that the US co-funded and provided much of the technology for the arrow missile system. Furthermore the Arrow is directly derived from the Patriot Missile system, the PAC-1 (not the 2nd or 3rd). The Arrow has so much US tech that the US has the right to deny Israeli sales of the arrow to other countries. Inventing their own shit my ass.

The wikipedia link for the Merkava details the numerous parts that the Isrealis bought from other countries. The gun system for the Mk4 is German. The engine is german as well! General Dynamics Land Systems is the largest contractor and guess where they are incorporated?

Do you not know what the difference between 2000 and 1990 are?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15E_Strike_Eagle#F-15I

Really. I have the internet too.

Just because the Lavi wasn't finished doesn't mean they invented it.

Good job for not knowing your facts.
Better luck next time.


Care to discuss why Israel constantly spies on the US and its weapons programs?
Avoiding that eh?

If the US was giving israel its defense tech, then they would have given israel the laser missile defense system, but alas they did not.
Just because they are similar, does not mean they are the same.

i know israel bought the essentials from other countries. Many NOT being the United States. I also know they have improved just about everything they have received.

Did you read the article I gave you on the lavi?
I didn't think so.
They did invent it.

" Care to discuss why Israel constantly spies on the US and its weapons programs?
Avoiding that eh?"

No. Im not avoiding it. I just don't know the answer. The Israeli secret service hasn't told me their intentions.

obvious child Posted at 6:52 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
And if you read that article, you'd notice that the US co-funded and provided much of the technology for the arrow missile system. Furthermore the Arrow is directly derived from the Patriot Missile system, the PAC-1 (not the 2nd or 3rd). The Arrow has so much US tech that the US has the right to deny Israeli sales of the arrow to other countries. Inventing their own shit my ass.  

The wikipedia link for the Merkava details the numerous parts that the Isrealis bought from other countries. The gun system for the Mk4 is German. The engine is german as well! General Dynamics Land Systems is the largest contractor and guess where they are incorporated?

Do you not know what the difference between 2000 and 1990 are?  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15E_Strike_Eagle#F-15I

Really. I have the internet too.  

Just because the Lavi wasn't finished doesn't mean they invented it.  

Good job for not knowing your facts.
Better luck next time.


Care to discuss why Israel constantly spies on the US and its weapons programs?
Avoiding that eh?

carracer Posted at 6:30 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
Quote: from obvious child at 6:15 pm on Sep. 23, 2008

Quote: from carracer at 2:31 pm on Sep. 22, 2008


 Latin Muscle, israel makes plenty of its own money, and most if not all of its weapons are vietnam war weapons improved upon by teh israeli government.  
 The USA does not give israel advanced military technology. They invent it themselves.  

 


O'Rly?

Care to discuss where the Arrow missile system came from?

Care to discuss where the Merkava came from?

Care to discuss why the majority of the IAF is flying US made jets including the most upgraded F-15 Eagle?

Care to discuss why Israel constantly spies on the US and its weapons programs?

Care to discuss who provided technical input and billions for the Lavi?  

US military sales to Israel

Israel is a fracking welfare state.  

 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_missile

-first paragraph says created by israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava#Merkava_history

-israel created. all modern technology israel created, hence why they have one of the most advanced tanks in the world.

" Care to discuss why the majority of the IAF is flying US made jets including the most upgraded F-15 Eagle? "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Air_Force#High_Tech_age_.281990_and_beyond.29

Notice the words "bought" and upgraded with Israeli technology.

Israel is one of leading technology countries.
They have been known to sell various forms of technological improvements, just so you know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi

The Lavi was never finished,and the US did not want another advanced aircraft competing on the market.

Good job for not knowing your facts.
Better luck next time.

obvious child Posted at 6:15 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
Quote: from carracer at 2:31 pm on Sep. 22, 2008

Latin Muscle, israel makes plenty of its own money, and most if not all of its weapons are vietnam war weapons improved upon by teh israeli government.
The USA does not give israel advanced military technology. They invent it themselves.


O'Rly?

Care to discuss where the Arrow missile system came from?

Care to discuss where the Merkava came from?

Care to discuss why the majority of the IAF is flying US made jets including the most upgraded F-15 Eagle?

Care to discuss why Israel constantly spies on the US and its weapons programs?

Care to discuss who provided technical input and billions for the Lavi?

US military sales to Israel

Israel is a fracking welfare state.


obvious child Posted at 4:59 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
LOL. I love how you all don't get it yet it's so blatantly obvious what he's saying.
carracer Posted at 5:31 pm on Sep. 22, 2008
Abs baby.

Your a moron.

Better embrace it now in your youth then have a shocking realization later.
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Latin Muscle, israel makes plenty of its own money, and most if not all of its weapons are vietnam war weapons improved upon by teh israeli government.
The USA does not give israel advanced military technology. They invent it themselves.

Loud Dog Posted at 2:42 am on Sep. 21, 2008
What the fuck are you talking about
jakelong Posted at 6:12 pm on Sep. 19, 2008
Good. Then your post is moot.
Loud Dog Posted at 11:26 am on Sep. 19, 2008
Hating Zionism =/= Hating Jews
jakelong Posted at 10:01 pm on Sep. 18, 2008
you mean hating zionism = hating jews?
Loud Dog Posted at 3:31 am on Sep. 18, 2008
Yeah, abs sure does hate jews! Why, I remember that time that... erm... well I'm just sure he does is all! I am jakelong, and my word is law!
jakelong Posted at 12:46 am on Sep. 18, 2008
I am sure that is WHY abs is voting for McCain.  
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