The fountains mingle with the river And the rivers with the ocean, The winds of Heaven mix for ever With a sweet emotion; Nothing in the world is single, All things by a law divine In one spirit meet and mingle - Why not I with thine? See the mountains kiss high Heaven And the waves clasp one another; No sister-flower would be forgiven If it disdained its brother; And the sunlight clasps the earth, And the moonbeams kiss the sea - What are all these kissings worth If thou kiss not me? ~~Percy Bysshe Shelley
See the mountains kiss high Heaven And the waves clasp one another; No sister-flower would be forgiven If it disdained its brother; And the sunlight clasps the earth, And the moonbeams kiss the sea - What are all these kissings worth If thou kiss not me?
~~Percy Bysshe Shelley
As often-times the too resplendent sun Hurries the pallid and reluctant moon Back to her sombre cave, ere she hath won A single ballad from the nightingale, So doth thy Beauty make my lips to fail, And all my sweetest singing out of tune. And as at dawn across the level mead On wings impetuous some wind will come, And with its too harsh kisses break the reed Which was its only instrument of song, So my too stormy passions work me wrong, And for excess of Love my Love is dumb. But surely unto Thee mine eyes did show Why I am silent, and my lute unstrung; Else it were better we should part, and go, Thou to some lips of sweeter melody, And I to nurse the barren memory Of unkissed kisses, and songs never sung. ~~Oscar Wilde
And as at dawn across the level mead On wings impetuous some wind will come, And with its too harsh kisses break the reed Which was its only instrument of song, So my too stormy passions work me wrong, And for excess of Love my Love is dumb.
But surely unto Thee mine eyes did show Why I am silent, and my lute unstrung; Else it were better we should part, and go, Thou to some lips of sweeter melody, And I to nurse the barren memory Of unkissed kisses, and songs never sung.
~~Oscar Wilde
F**K formal definitions.
Edit: Also. Yea. You'd really have to decide what kind of "love" you are talking about.
Quote: from The Academy at 3:02 pm on July 10, 2009 Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 3:00 pm on July 10, 2009 There might even be three forms of love, or even four. Maybe they are all Greek, though. That is actually a decent point of view. Who knows, the world is vast and full of multiple points and ideas. Each person finds something different out of love. I was actually referring to storge, philia, eros, and agape. Basically family-love, friendship-love, romantic-love, and divine-love. C. S. Lewis wrote a little book about them that has around 100% fewer talking lion Jesuses than most people would expect from him.
Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 3:00 pm on July 10, 2009 There might even be three forms of love, or even four. Maybe they are all Greek, though. That is actually a decent point of view. Who knows, the world is vast and full of multiple points and ideas. Each person finds something different out of love.
There might even be three forms of love, or even four. Maybe they are all Greek, though.
I was actually referring to storge, philia, eros, and agape. Basically family-love, friendship-love, romantic-love, and divine-love. C. S. Lewis wrote a little book about them that has around 100% fewer talking lion Jesuses than most people would expect from him.
I really like what CS lewis has to say about love.
I probably went way to far in my other posts in this topic, because i dont think that there is one kind of love, but many, and some you choose and some you dont.
sigh.
Probably, it isn't written in a very complicated way. At the very least, it will drive home the concept that the English word "love" isn't really sufficient for all the different ways we try to use it, which renders it vague.
Well that's the creepiest thing I've heard all month.
why?
So you believe you could equally have decided not to continue loving them, and that would have been that?
sure. or certainly not loved them the way that i love them now.
Quote: from barnabas at 10:08 pm on July 10, 2009 because we choose to love. Firstly, that would not make love itself a decision. It would make it the result of a decision. Secondly, at precisely what age did you decide you were going to love your parents?
because we choose to love.
Secondly, at precisely what age did you decide you were going to love your parents?
I think at the moment that i had to decide that i was going to continue to love them in spite of being aware of their flaws, something that I was not aware of them having when i was younger.
did i love my parents as a child? yes, but infinitely different than how i lvoe them now, as an adult.
Quote: from barnabas at 3:06 pm on July 10, 2009 Quote: from gronk at 12:20 am on July 10, 2009 love is a decision i like that. In what sense is love a decision?
Quote: from gronk at 12:20 am on July 10, 2009 love is a decision i like that.
love is a decision
i like that.
You have yet to notice where this topic is located though, have you? Religion and PHILOSOPHY. This nor my response has anything to do with science, It's nice that someone is a fan of Scientology but I am not. Science can prove many things, but does that make it correct? No. Love is a never ending discussion that science will never be able to prove exists. I'm sorry you wasted your time on your last post, but it changes nothing. If love is real it's not felt through the brain, it's felt through the heart.
Oh. My. Are you for real? That was the most ignorant statement I have heard. Ever.
- Science is based on philosophy, therefore science is relevant in any philosophical discussion where empirical details are relevant. - Scientology is a religious cult that extorts people for money. Science is the human activity of seeking natural explanations for natural phenomena that involves testing and comparing. - If science can 'prove something beyond reasonable doubt', then yes, it makes it 'correct'. - Science has already 'proven beyond reasonable doubt' that love exists. - The heart does not have any neurons, so you can't feel anything 'in the heart'.
However, for me, friendship and romantic are so close to identical that it does not matter - and even of the same form, no two relations between people are exactly alike any more than any two people are.
Kat, everything you just said was stupid and wrong.
I will support that statement if requested.