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misssphin233 Posted at 1:57 pm on Jan. 7, 2009
Ok so I am trying to be more open minded and spiritual. I am trying to read about God and all that but I can't do it. I will sit there reading the same hting over and over again and it isn't sinking in. First of all I do have ADD so it is hard enough for me to comprehend what I am reading. But the bible is SO BORING. I CAN'T concentrate on it. I want to learn these things but I just don't know how  

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LogicandReason Posted at 1:52 pm on Jan. 11, 2009
Quote: from GeneCosta at 5:32 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

It's not really boring, but it's downright disgusting. People were trying to kick Harry Potter out of the school? The Old Testament has the main "good guy" advocating genocide, rape, and infanticide.

Yes...but don't forget the misogynist Paul who advocates celibacy over marriage (while still persecuting gays)...and John on acid and his 'Revelation.'  The teeth gnashing eschatology has more fireworks than the Power Rangers.

GeneCosta Posted at 12:48 pm on Jan. 11, 2009
Quote: from lsd at 5:39 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

Quote: from GeneCosta at 5:32 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

It's not really boring, but it's downright disgusting. People were trying to kick Harry Potter out of the school? The Old Testament has the main "good guy" advocating genocide, rape, and infanticide.

What an original viewpoint.

 


I don't recall being asked to provide a unique viewpoint on the matter.

GeneCosta Posted at 12:47 pm on Jan. 11, 2009
Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 6:31 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

What's fun is taking things out of historical context, as usual.

Think about it--if you had to tell your people to conquer a land (as Moses did) and you left the sons and daughters and widows of that land alive, wouldn't it make sense that said sons, daughters and widows would eventually rise up against your people, rebel and kill them, or worse, inspire your people to start rebelling against their government and their God?


And this is why Satanic theists make more sense defending Lucifer: seriously, are you even reading what you write?

So God is a magnificent tactician who can utilize rape and genocide. Wonderful.  

GeneCosta Posted at 12:45 pm on Jan. 11, 2009
Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 6:11 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

Quote: from GeneCosta at 8:32 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

It's not really boring, but it's downright disgusting. People were trying to kick Harry Potter out of the school? The Old Testament has the main "good guy" advocating genocide, rape, and infanticide.

Only when morons read it.


Touched a nerve, I see.

ArtFreak Posted at 4:36 am on Jan. 11, 2009
there's loads of different versions which make it easier and more interesting to read and take in,
plenty of atheists admit it's a fantastic book, full of incredible sotries and writing...even if they don't believe it
lots of the people who say it's boring, haven't read the best bits of it.
I suggest you try the "youth bible" or even "the message" which use more modern language, the youth bible uses stories to relate to which really does make it intereting.
anonomouse Posted at 7:30 pm on Jan. 10, 2009
Read the new testament. It really depends on the book you read. The old testament is boring--it basically only has long genealogies. All it talks about is the Jewish people coming to God, then disobeying him, then coming back to him, etc...

If you want to read the bible, at least start out with the four gospels (Matt, Mark, Luke, John). John is my favorite, followed by Luke. (Luke is short).

Praise the Lard Posted at 9:52 am on Jan. 10, 2009
Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:22 am on Jan. 9, 2009

In your opinion, which doesn't really count for much in the grand scheme of things, I'm afraid.

Why do you get into discussions on forums if you think this way?

sophos Posted at 5:20 am on Jan. 10, 2009
Quote: from misssphin233 at 5:57 am on Jan. 8, 2009

... But the bible is SO BORING. I CAN'T concentrate on it.
This is a built-in feature of the bible; the mind-numbing experience is confused for enlightenment.
amber1991 Posted at 12:35 pm on Jan. 9, 2009
Quote: from sweetness14 at 2:04 pm on Jan. 7, 2009

All u fucking ppl that diss the bible deserve to go to hell. sorry but that book is holy and the way of life.  

bet u didnt kno i was christian. i dont show it.  

diss the bible and diss ur own life. unless ur planning on killing urself. the bible has the answers to all ur fucking problems.  
dont treat it like shit.  

toilet paper? are u damn stupid? that book deserves to be read! it speaks to everyone and ur a pathetic if u dont understand that!  

may the bible lead u in all u do. dont diss the book that holds ur future. this conversation should stop. now.  

thanx for reading


Thank you for being such a good representative of christians.

exceedinglyrare Posted at 5:22 am on Jan. 9, 2009
Quote: from SovSull at 10:39 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

Right, it's a thoroughly immoral and repulsive reasoning. You asked me to consider being in Moses' position, and KILL KILL KILL wasn't anywhere close to being my first thought. And if God doesn't condone these verses, one wonders why he has someone speaking for him. Frankly, if I were God, authoring (in one way or another) the foundational texts of my religion, I'd probably be peering very closely over the shoulders of the many people who would write and then copy my words through millennia. God isn't a very good copy editor, and I'd argue that his silence on the matter gives consent.

Consent and condoning are two entirely different things. Haven't you ever heard "If you have to, but I'd rather you not?" as a phrase out of someone's mouth?

Frankly, I don't think you understand the history here at all, which is your misfortune.

 


There's nothing for me to recall given that I have no idea what you mean by "grace." And even if the repentant weren't being killed, it doesn't change the fact they were living under a tyranny.

In your opinion, which doesn't really count for much in the grand scheme of things, I'm afraid.

SadnessNTurmoil Posted at 10:01 pm on Jan. 8, 2009
Quote: from sweetness14 at 2:04 pm on Jan. 7, 2009

All u fucking ppl that diss the bible deserve to go to hell. sorry but that book is holy and the way of life.  

bet u didnt kno i was christian. i dont show it.  

diss the bible and diss ur own life. unless ur planning on killing urself. the bible has the answers to all ur fucking problems.  
dont treat it like shit.  

toilet paper? are u damn stupid? that book deserves to be read! it speaks to everyone and ur a pathetic if u dont understand that!  

may the bible lead u in all u do. dont diss the book that holds ur future. this conversation should stop. now.  

thanx for reading


The bible is holy? Lot (The Just and Righteous) Offered his daughters to a group of angel rapers.

Book of Genesis 19:8

SovSull Posted at 7:39 pm on Jan. 8, 2009
Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 10:11 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

Did I ever say that it was morally correct? No. I just explained the reasoning behind it. This doesn't mean that God condones it, but rather that Moses does and that it therefore became part of the Law.

Right, it's a thoroughly immoral and repulsive reasoning. You asked me to consider being in Moses' position, and KILL KILL KILL wasn't anywhere close to being my first thought. And if God doesn't condone these verses, one wonders why he has someone speaking for him. Frankly, if I were God, authoring (in one way or another) the foundational texts of my religion, I'd probably be peering very closely over the shoulders of the many people who would write and then copy my words through millennia. God isn't a very good copy editor, and I'd argue that his silence on the matter gives consent.


Furthermore, recall that we're looking at a world without grace and that, what's more, there are absolutely no occasions in the Old Testament in which a person was repentant and was still killed despite that repentance. Generally speaking, one ought to read the whole story before dismissing it.

There's nothing for me to recall given that I have no idea what you mean by "grace." And even if the repentant weren't being killed, it doesn't change the fact they were living under a tyranny.

exceedinglyrare Posted at 7:11 pm on Jan. 8, 2009
Quote: from SovSull at 9:40 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

Sure, but how is killing every man, woman, child and infant the best way of settling the matter?

That's a rhetorical question, the real answer is that there isn't any moral justification for swinging your dick around someone else's turf and then slaughtering everyone in the vicinity in the event some poor bastard expresses discontent.


Did I ever say that it was morally correct? No. I just explained the reasoning behind it. This doesn't mean that God condones it, but rather that Moses does and that it therefore became part of the Law.

Furthermore, recall that we're looking at a world without grace and that, what's more, there are absolutely no occasions in the Old Testament in which a person was repentant and was still killed despite that repentance. Generally speaking, one ought to read the whole story before dismissing it.

SovSull Posted at 6:40 pm on Jan. 8, 2009
Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 9:31 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

What's fun is taking things out of historical context, as usual.

Think about it--if you had to tell your people to conquer a land (as Moses did) and you left the sons and daughters and widows of that land alive, wouldn't it make sense that said sons, daughters and widows would eventually rise up against your people, rebel and kill them, or worse, inspire your people to start rebelling against their government and their God?


Sure, but how is killing every man, woman, child and infant the best way of settling the matter?

That's a rhetorical question, the real answer is that there isn't any moral justification for swinging your dick around someone else's turf and then slaughtering everyone in the vicinity in the event some poor bastard expresses discontent.

exceedinglyrare Posted at 6:31 pm on Jan. 8, 2009
What's fun is taking things out of historical context, as usual.

Think about it--if you had to tell your people to conquer a land (as Moses did) and you left the sons and daughters and widows of that land alive, wouldn't it make sense that said sons, daughters and widows would eventually rise up against your people, rebel and kill them, or worse, inspire your people to start rebelling against their government and their God?

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