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I am proud to be white.
Replies: 144Last Post Nov. 23, 2008 1:26pm by jakelong
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shem


The children of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Aram, Arpachshad and Lud, in addition to daughters. Abraham, the patriarch of the Hebrews and Arabs, was one of the descendants of Arpachshad.

The 1st century historian Flavius Josephus, among many others, recounted the tradition that these five sons were the progenitors of the nations of Elam, Assyria, Syria, Chaldea (from whom descended the Hebrews and Arabs), and Lydia, respectively.



Terms like "Semite" and "Hamite" are less common now, and may sometimes even be perceived as offensive, because of their "racial" connotations. The adjectival forms "Semitic" and "Hamitic" are more common, though the vague term 'Hamitic' dropped out of mainstream academic use in the 1960s. Semitic is still a commonly used term for the Semitic languages, as a subset of the Afro-Asiatic languages, denoting the common linguistic heritage of Arabic, Aramaic, Akkadian, Ethiopic, Hebrew and Phoenician languages.


Some believe that from Shem descend the whole of the European peoples. Ernest L. Martin writes, "...[The] Shemite tribes (people who were descendants of Shem and including some peoples who came from Abraham) later colonized the whole of southern Europe and replaced the people of JAVAN and his four descendants. JAVAN'S people were pushed mainly into the northern areas of Europe where in turn they migrated farther east into Asia (along with GOMER the firstborn son of JAPHETH and his descendants). Indeed, in prophecies dealing also with the End-Time, we find the people of JAVAN no longer in Europe, but they are now associated with TUBAL [Ezekiel 38: & 39 end time prophecy] (another son of JAPHETH) who became an eastern Mongolian type of people...though the name JAVAN still retained its geographical hold on the southern region of Europe, particularly in Greece)...It is not uncommon for people to give a name to a region and then the original people move on to other areas (or are killed off) and the original geographical name becomes associated with completely different people"


Some scholars have claimed that the Anglo-Saxons are the descendants of Shem. "Alfred, king of the Anglo-Saxons [b. 849 A.D.] was... the son [descendant] of Sem [Shem]" (Church Historians of England, vol. 2, p. 443). Proponents of this theory also claim that Alfred the Great was a descendant of Shem because he claimed to descend from Sceafa, a marooned man who came to Britain on a boat after a flood.

Le Petit, a writer in 1601 mentioned King Adel, said to be descendant of Shem, ruler of Britain having 3 children that migrated to India.

Further, it is said[who?] that Tuitsch a German patriarch is none other than Shem himself (see Assyrian-German theory).



According to Abulgazi, Shem's original land was Iran while Japheth's was the country called "Kuttup Shamach," said to be the name of the regions between the Caspian Sea and India. [9]

According to Armenian tradition, Dr. Hales is quoted saying, "To the sons of Shem was alloted the middle region of the earth viz., Palestine, Syria, Assyria, Samaria (Shinar?) Babel (or Babylonia), Persia and Hedjaz (Arabia).[10]

In Mystery of the Ages, by Dr. James Modlish, it is said that India is inhabited by Shemites.[11]

Hisham Ibn al-Kalbi, a 19th century Arab historian, states that al-Hind and al-Sind [India] are of Ophir, the son of Joktan[12]. Isidore of Seville (c. 635) had also made Joktan the ancestor of Indians; his material was based on earlier enumerations made by Jerome and Josephus, who had stated that Joktan's descendants "inhabited from Cophen, an Indian river, and in part of Asia adjoining to it."


Hey that would make the Shemites were the original aryans!!! Yay!  

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Quote: from MaryLin at 12:13 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

I'm not significantly proud of my ethnicity, but I'm proud of my heritage. Estonians FTW!

So am I.

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Jesus was probably black.

lets see where this goes

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Hey that would make the Shemites were the original aryans!!! Yay!
Lol@Bible as historical source.


Jesus was probably black.

lets see where this goes


Lol Jesus.


This is the famous picture of Jesus that was created by scientists testing the DNA of the region at that time.

I'm not a Christian, but according to the bible wasn't Jesus created by god? Wouldn't he look however God wanted him to?

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I think racial/ethnic pride is silly.  I think people should just be who they are without adding any of this obnoxious ego factor to it.  It's not like you chose your race :/

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Quote: from palepalepeach at 1:37 pm on Nov. 22, 2008

I think racial/ethnic pride is silly. I think people should just be who they are without adding any of this obnoxious ego factor to it. It's not like you chose your race :/
But you can choose to be a part of your race and love it's beauty.

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i'm black. being white just seems kinda 'bland' to me. but hey, i guess white people love it.

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9 pages, really. is it worth reading

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Quote: from kidd rune at 10:37 am on Nov. 22, 2008

But you can choose to be a part of your race and love it's beauty.

Uh.  You can't choose not to be part of your race.  I can't choose to stop being white.  


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Quote: from palepalepeach at 9:50 pm on Nov. 22, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 10:37 am on Nov. 22, 2008

But you can choose to be a part of your race and love it's beauty.

Uh. You can't choose not to be part of your race. I can't choose to stop being white.


You can choose to go against the interests of preservation and advancement of your race.

And you can have kids that are a different race.

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What race would your kids be if they are of a "different race" than you?

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that's nice to know...i'm not proud of anything....

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Quote: from Catacomb at 12:47 pm on Nov. 22, 2008

9 pages, really. is it worth reading
Nope not at all. Feel free to skip it.

Post edited at 7:40 pm on Nov. 22, 2008 by jakelong

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Quote: from jakelong at 10:30 pm on Nov. 22, 2008

What race would your kids be if they are of a "different race" than you?
I meant they'd be mixed.

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So if you are mixed you are a "different race" than your parents?

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