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I am proud to be white.
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Quote: from HaitianGurl67 at 3:39 pm on Nov. 9, 2008

Good for you! I'm proud to be Haitian.
you hate people?

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Quote: from prisoner of hss at 8:33 pm on Nov. 11, 2008

Quote: from HaitianGurl67 at 3:39 pm on Nov. 9, 2008

Good for you! I'm proud to be Haitian.
you hate people?


No I don't hate people!  

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Which attributes? Large wings? feathers? Aerodynamic body?
Genetics that they inherited from their parents, and from their parents, and from their parents, and fro.....



Aryan too. Indo-European is better and more accepted to mean what you want.

Aryan too. Indo-European is better and more accepted to mean what you want.


It's because in the 1910s, the whole Nordicism stuff started out.

Aryan is the original term for what I refer to as Whites.

"Indo-European" is just a term - meaning the same thing - without the history attached to it.


Still no mention of skin color which you keep going back to.
Whites are included in "All people"


But Im sure the bible meant that ethiopian jews are above white protestants

And that white jews are above white christians.


It said that Jews are above all other peopel.


And again if you use race as "closely related people" jews are certainly closely related by their faith.
It's the Bible Jakelong.

If you can't interpret it - I will for you.

It means that Jews are above everyone else. Alright? Whites are included in that "Everyone else"

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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:36 pm on Nov. 12, 2008

Genetics that they inherited from their parents, and from their parents, and from their parents, and fro.....
Still does not say what white attributes made it that they could fly.
 

Aryan is the original term for what I refer to as Whites.
Which is obsolete.


"Indo-European" is just a term - meaning the same thing - without the history attached to it.
It is more scientifc and better descriptive.


It said that Jews are above all other peopel.
Without any mention to who is "white" or not.


It's the Bible Jakelong.

If you can't interpret it - I will for you.


Are you a Cathlic priest or a Pope? Are you speaking with religious authprity and infaillibilty on matters of faith?

If not I don't have to believe your intepretation.


Whites are included in that "Everyone else"
We do not not know that "everyone else" mention whites. The Bible does not mention the word "white" anywhere.

Here is the actual text


"For you are a holy people to YHWH your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth."


"The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because you were more in number than any people; for you were the fewest of all people; but because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your ancestors."



Views of superiority have been explicitly rejected by Reform, Conservative and Modern Orthodox Judaism. Communal Jewish organizations such as the B'nai Brith, American Jewish Committee and Anti-Defamation League reject discrimination against Gentiles as well as against Jews. Historically however, a minority strain in Judaism, usually associated with Jewish mysticism, did appear to hold that Jews were qualitatively different from Gentiles, rather than simply being chosen for a special mission.

The Encyclopedia Judaica provides a secular, historical explanation of this belief, stating that "It would seem that the more extreme, and exclusive, interpretations of the doctrine of election, among Jewish thinkers, were partly the result of reaction to oppression by the non-Jewish world. The more the Jew was forced to close in on himself, to withdraw into the imposed confines of the ghetto, the more he tended to emphasize Israel's difference from the cruel gentile without. Only thus did his suffering become intelligible and bearable... When the Jew was eventually allowed to find his place in a gentile world, the less exclusivist aspect of the doctrine reasserted itself."




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That's great....nothing wrong with that.

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Still does not say what white attributes made it that they could fly.
Their brain played some sort of role in this...


Which is obsolete.
Because people are so unknowing of the real definition.


It is more scientifc and better descriptive.
No, it just doesn't have "EVIL ANTISEMITISM JEW NAZI HITLER" attached to it.

If you go to http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/aryan" target="_top">http://http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/aryan
You'll see:
1.Ethnology. a member or descendant of the prehistoric people who spoke Indo-European.
2.(in Nazi doctrine) a non-Jewish Caucasian, esp. of Nordic stock.
3.{formerly) Indo-European.
4.(formerly) Indo-Iranian.

The first is what I speak of.
The 2nd is what most people THINK of.
The third and fourth are kind of obsolete due to genetic research (And that other people picked up European languages).



Without any mention to who is "white" or not.
The term "White" wasn't in use back then.
The Jews never viewed themselves as the same as the Christians.
Back then, Whites were almost always Christians - and, therefore, part of the "Inferior" people.


Are you a Cathlic priest or a Pope? Are you speaking with religious authprity and infaillibilty on matters of faith?

If not I don't have to believe your intepretation.


It's not hard to interpret...


We do not not know that "everyone else" mention whites. The Bible does not mention the word "white" anywhere.
It mentions EVERYONE BUT JEWS.

Therefore, Whites are included in the NOT JEWS part.

What's so hard to understand about that?



Here is the actual text
There are no "Actual text" versions of the bible.

I used the King James version - you used some other one.


or thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Deuteronomy 7:6 (King James Version)

Look at every version being different:
http://bible.cc/deuteronomy/7-6.htm" target="_top">http://http://bible.cc/deuteronomy/7-6.htm

Your version is some other one.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:04 pm on Nov. 13, 2008

Their brain played some sort of role in this...
You have proof that in this case their white brain had MORE influence than any of the OTHER factors I listed?

Other White brains have been working on the same problem for years and none of them succeeded.


Because people are so unknowing of the real definition.
OR because it no longer corresponds to the right thing. It was obsolete BY 1910.


obsolete

adjective 1. no longer in general use; fallen into disuse: an obsolete expression.  
2. of a discarded or outmoded type; out of date: an obsolete battleship.  
3. (of a linguistic form) no longer in use, esp., out of use for at least the past century. Compare archaic.
4. effaced by wearing down or away.
5. Biology. imperfectly developed or rudimentary in comparison with the corresponding character in other individuals, as of the opposite sex or of a related species.




No, it just doesn't have "EVIL ANTISEMITISM JEW NAZI HITLER" attached to it.
But you prefer it to Indo-European because it has that meaning attached?

Here is more on the people who spoke Indo-European:


Aryan is an English word derived from the Sanskrit "Ārya" meaning "noble" or "honorable".[1][2] The Avestan cognate is "Airya" and the Old Persian equivalent is "Ariya". It is widely held to have been used as an ethnic self-designation of the Proto-Indo-Iranians [3] Since in the 19th century, the Indo-Iranians were the most ancient known speakers of Indo-European languages, the word Aryan was adopted to refer not only to the Indo-Iranian people, but also to Indo-European speakers as a whole

Aryan to refer to people is used for Indo-Iranian AND Indo-European. So do you think that

Whites = Indo-Iranians + Indo- Europeans?

If yes then you would use the term Aryan correctly
If no then you are using an obsolete meaning for indo-European.
 


The term "White" wasn't in use back then.
The Jews never viewed themselves as the same as the Christians.

They were not refering to "christians" in that particular quote.

At the time of Deuteronomy 7:6 Christians did NOT EVEN exist yet. At the time they would have been pagans from the other Middle-eastern tribes such as Amorites (sumerians) and Canaanites.

Learn about biblical meaning. Otherwise you just look like an idiot who babblers on stuff he knows shit about.


Back then, Whites were almost always Christians - and, therefore, part of the "Inferior" people.
See above for what I think of your stupid comment.

Tell me what "back then" refers to at the time of Deuteronomy 7:6


It's not hard to interpret...
No really? Is that why millions of ppl keep at each other's throat over the  meaning of this word or tat word?

Being "hard" has nothing to do with it. It's obvious you know shit about biblical context and history/


mentions EVERYONE BUT JEWS.
Which still does not necessarily mean "white"

So it CANNOT be used to prove that jews =/= whites
 


There are no "Actual text" versions of the bible.
Its from the torah. Much closer than KJV to what was said originally for THAT particular text.


Your version is some other one.
From the Torah.

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You have proof that in this case their white brain had MORE influence than any of the OTHER factors I listed?

Other White brains have been working on the same problem for years and none of them succeeded.


Not all brains are the same - even in race.

As you said - there is a lot of variation INSIDE of race.

Nevertheless, he got his genetics from his ancestors.

And the proof? Well, there isn't really undeniable proof EITHER WAY - is there?

There isn't really a way to test them: Clone them and see if they can create an airplane better than the average - or even gifted - human.

But, the fact that my dog laying on his bed can't create an airplane is partly due to the fact that he can't logically think that way.

I'm not comparing nonWhites to dogs though - just that genetics is WHY some people can create airplanes - and why some can't really do much at all.

And do you think that everyone that looked at that one Jews works created an airplane? No - therefore that isn't the direct reason WHY they created it.


OR because it no longer corresponds to the right thing. It was obsolete BY 1910.
It was changed is more like it.

It's synonymous with "Indo-European" - which is still used.


But you prefer it to Indo-European because it has that meaning attached?
Aryan refers to the race moreso than the linguistics - like Indo-European does.


Here is more on the people who spoke Indo-European:

{quote}

Aryan to refer to people is used for Indo-Iranian AND Indo-European. So do you think that

Whites = Indo-Iranians + Indo- Europeans?

If yes then you would use the term Aryan correctly
If no then you are using an obsolete meaning for indo-European.


Isn't Indo-Iranian a BRANCH of Indo-Europeans?
"the word Aryan was adopted to refer not only to the Indo-Iranian people, but also to Indo-European speakers as a whole"
That's implying that the Indo-Iranians were included INSIDE of the Indo-European groupings.

So
Code:
Whites = Indo-Iranians + Indo- Europeans
Wouldn't be any different from
Code:
Whites = Indo-Europeans
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They were not refering to "christians" in that particular quote.

At the time of Deuteronomy 7:6 Christians did NOT EVEN exist yet. At the time they would have been pagans from the other Middle-eastern tribes such as Amorites (sumerians) and Canaanites.

Learn about biblical meaning. Otherwise you just look like an idiot who babblers on stuff he knows shit about.


I look like an idiot? You're the one saying "Nobody said White in it so they aren't speaking of Whites," - which would only be true if Whites weren't considered "All other humans" to Jews...



See above for what I think of your stupid comment.

Tell me what "back then" refers to at the time of Deuteronomy 7:6


Are you saying that Whites aren't included in "All other people" and that Jews believed they WERE Whites?


No really? Is that why millions of ppl keep at each other's throat over the  meaning of this word or tat word?

Being "hard" has nothing to do with it. It's obvious you know shit about biblical context and history/


I'm sorry o' master of Jewish history.

As if you didn't understand that "all other people" include Whites too (OMG SKIN COLOR ONLY ALERT!)


Its from the torah. Much closer than KJV to what was said originally for THAT particular text.

From the Torah.
Link me to the source that you got it from.

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kidd rune, you do know what the Torah is right?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 1:49 pm on Nov. 14, 2008

Link me to the source that you got it from.
Go to "Jewpedia"


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Quote: from sunshineshower at 9:17 am on Nov. 16, 2008

kidd rune, you do know what the Torah is right?
Yes, but I doubt he had the Torah cracked open in front of him.

The Talmud is actually more precise anyway.

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