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Replies: 117Last Post Sep. 22, 2008 2:52pm by kidd rune
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I don't give color to countries. Only to flags.
I don't give color to countries either, but I see that one RACE dominates a country, population-wise and government-wise.


It still does not "mess up" the race.
Yes it does. Mixing destroys race.


No one knows the %. But she has Maori ancestry.
What's her name?



Um no. Hes a lot of things but I can tell you he's not pro commie. He's a WN among other things.
I thought he said he was a Neo-Nazi. I'll ask.



 No reference to any idiom relating to race here
It's not used in common speech as race itself isn't common speech.

Look up many racial idioms and words and they'll have nothing.



As early as the 17th century slaves were brought in in by the Dutch from indonesia and madagascar. Then the Brits took over and brought in  Indians.

If Whites are SO GOOD at creating countries on their own why they ALWAYS NEED nonwhite slaves from somewhere else everywhere they go? Tell me that.


Labor. They believed that Whites were human beings and Negroes were untameable animals that could NEVER contribute to a society. They used them as labor with no hope of them becoming anything more than property.



Wait what???
They went to South Africa to escape sub-Saharan African conditions.



Africans were there first. But as usual the european newcomesrs decimated the population there.

If Whites really wanted to help ALL races then why do whites always go to NONWHITE countries and areas and "MESS UP" with the races THERE?


So Whites mess up races, but nonWhites don't?

And Whites did it HISTORICALLY. Now guilt is spread around and we're treated like shit now.


Why do they even LEAVE Europe?
Is it that hard to figure out?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 7:39 pm on Sep. 19, 2008

I see that one RACE dominates a country, population-wise and government-wise.
And I say so what? Proves shit.


Mixing destroys race.
Since the genes reappear. I say no. We can do this till the end of te world you know.


What's her name?
Kiri te Kanawa. Nice Irish ring to her name too.
 

I thought he said he was a Neo-Nazi. I'll ask.
Well Neo-Nazi =/= communist last I checked.

 


Look up many racial idioms and words and they'll have nothing.
Racial idioms are so lol.

 


Labor.
Yep and again shows they CAN'T do LABOR in other countries on their own. Pretty "superior" if you ask me...


Wait what???
They went to South Africa to escape sub-Saharan African conditions.

 


So Whites mess up races, but nonWhites don't?
Hehe you tripped on that one eh? Laid out the trap and you fell right for it. Nice. Just shows you its onot a one way street.


And Whites did it HISTORICALLY.
They still mixing with nonwhites btw. In case you haven't noticed you need whites and nonwhites to make a mixed person. Fact is you don't EVEN need whites to make a mixed person!



Why do they even LEAVE Europe?
Is it that hard to figure out?

Because they were UNHAPPY in their shithole?  

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And I say so what? Proves shit.
*sigh*

So Nigeria is as much a White country as Iceland?


Since the genes reappear. I say no. We can do this till the end of te world you know.
They can't reappear. If a White man and a Black woman have a kid, he will have 50% White genes and 50% Black genes. HALF of the white genes are lost forever.


Well Neo-Nazi =/= communist last I checked.
But he has "Commie" in his name, so that's why I was  confused.



Yep and again shows they CAN'T do LABOR in other countries on their own. Pretty "superior" if you ask me...
They can, they would just rather use free labor. The Scandinavian countries didn't have Negro slaves imported, and before the massive Asylum Seekers migration they were the top of the world (actually, they somewhat still are).



Hehe you tripped on that one eh? Laid out the trap and you fell right for it. Nice. Just shows you its onot a one way street.
What do you mean? I'm not sure you get what I'm saying. Whites mess up races as much as nonWhites by mixing.


Because they were UNHAPPY in their shithole?
Europe was a shithole? I'd like a few reasons why.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:43 pm on Sep. 20, 2008

If a White man and a Black woman have a kid, he will have 50% White genes and 50% Black genes. HALF of the white genes are lost forever.  
And if those kids marry mixed kids or even white kids those genes WILL reappear.  

One of my buds is white. He's got blond hair, blue eyes and they are round european. Guess what. His grandma is 100% asian.  Actually fuck I know 2 guys like that. the other one it was his grandad that's asian and the grandkid ended up also blond hair blue eye!



They can, they would just rather use free labor.
Buying and importing slaves isn't exactly FREE. Try again.


The Scandinavian countries didn't have Negro slaves imported
Thats because they were in their own countries. But you wonder why they went to England and France and all those other countries to raid them and pillage them. And I bet they did bring back a few human live booty on their raids.


  Whites mess up races as much as nonWhites by mixing.  
Oh good. Glad you don't think its just one-sided.


Europe was a shithole? I'd like a few reasons why.
Must have been or else why did they leave it to go live some place else?

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And if those kids marry mixed kids or even white kids those genes WILL reappear.  
Only the ones that the child itself inherited. 1/2 of his/her genes will be nonWhite (in the case that his other parent has no White genes). And, averages in play, only half of what he gives off will be of White stock.

So, if he reproduces with ANOTHER nonwhite, that kid will have 1/4 White ancestry (on average).

If he reproduces with a WHITE, their child will have 75% White ancestry (again, an average).


One of my buds is white. He's got blond hair, blue eyes and they are round european. Guess what. His grandma is 100% asian.  Actually fuck I know 2 guys like that. the other one it was his grandad that's asian and the grandkid ended up also blond hair blue eye!
What's your point? You think that a White trait can't possibly exist if someone isn't 100% White?

If his Grandma is 100% Mongoloid, and, let's say his Grandpa is 100% White, they will produce a 50/50 child.
If that 50/50 individual reproduces with a 100% White, they will, in turn, create a 75% White individual, definitely enough to show quite a few White traits.


Buying and importing slaves isn't exactly FREE. Try again.
But they didn't have to pay the slaves, did they?

What would cost more, buying a slave or paying someone for their work?


Thats because they were in their own countries. But you wonder why they went to England and France and all those other countries to raid them and pillage them. And I bet they did bring back a few human live booty on their raids.
Of course they used slaves, but they didn't use nonWhite slaves.

And the vast majority of them weren't Vikings or raiders, of course.


Oh good. Glad you don't think its just one-sided.
Of course not. That's why I don't advocate racial mixing, it destroys all races.


Must have been or else why did they leave it to go live some place else?
That's an assumption, not proof.

They wanted to discover the world and obtain riches.

Of course Europe wasn't as rich and arable as Africa, the Earths most fertile land, but it wasn't a shit-hole.

And, as you know, it was A LOT more technologically advanced than the rest of the world.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 5:01 pm on Sep. 20, 2008

If he reproduces with a WHITE, their child will have 75% White ancestry (again, an average).
And after just 2 generations bam the pure whites can reappear.


You think that a White trait can't possibly exist if someone isn't 100% White?
Nope just showed you they DON'T disappear.


But they didn't have to pay the slaves, did they?

What would cost more, buying a slave or paying someone for their work?


Ask the economists. That's some debate that was going on before you showed up and no one fully agrees.


Of course they used slaves, but they didn't use nonWhite slaves.
How do you know. If those "vikings" went all the way to South America as you claim.


That's why I don't advocate racial mixing, it destroys all races.
It doesn't really since the genes do reappear.


That's an assumption, not proof.
Sure.


They wanted to discover the world and obtain riches.
You mean they wer not rich enough in Europe? You mean Europe was not enough of a paradise?


And, as you know, it was A LOT more technologically advanced than the rest of the world.
By the 19th century yeah. In the 1500s it was touch and go.

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And after just 2 generations bam the pure whites can reappear.
They aren't "pure". They simply have enough traits to be considered White, yet, in no way, are they "pure".



Nope just showed you they DON'T disappear.
I KNOW they don't.

But, why did you say your friends have White traits with nonWhite ancestry? Haven't I been saying this the whole time?


Ask the economists. That's some debate that was going on before you showed up and no one fully agrees.
But slaves themselves reproduce and create MORE labor for you. If you pay someone, they can quit at any time AND they can't create more labor.

I assume having a slave itself would be cheaper.

There was also a large number of slaves due to the fact that Negroes reproduce more than Whites, another reason why they used them.


How do you know. If those "vikings" went all the way to South America as you claim.
Viking and Scandinavian aren't the same. Vikings and Nordic travelers aren't the same either.

Vikings went to the Americas, yes, but they didn't go, take a bunch of nonWhite slaves, and return to Scandinavia.


It doesn't really since the genes do reappear.
Not always. The Mediterranean subrace is almost entirely extinct, do you think it's possible to recreate a large number of pure Mediterraneans?


You mean they wer not rich enough in Europe? You mean Europe was not enough of a paradise?
"Of course Europe wasn't as rich and arable as Africa, the Earths most fertile land, but it wasn't a shit-hole."
I answered your question in the last post.


By the 19th century yeah. In the 1500s it was touch and go.
19th century? I thought slavery was too busy being abolished by then!

In the 1400's when Whites stepped ashore in central Africa, they had no written language. They didn't have the wheel. Their clothing was basic loincloths made from untreated animal skins. Their houses were made of mud and sticks.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:44 pm on Sep. 20, 2008

They simply have enough traits to be considered White, yet, in no way, are they "pure".
Why not? Because the 1/2 % of nonwhite in them? Ew!!!!


But, why did you say your friends have White traits with nonWhite ancestry? Haven't I been saying this the whole time?
No what you say that the ONLY way to have what you call "white" traits is through white ancestry. Thats way extreme and plain false.


I assume having a slave itself would be cheaper.

There was also a large number of slaves due to the fact that Negroes reproduce more than Whites, another reason why they used them.


Just shows though they can't even reproduce fast enough to work their own land. They could do it back in the Middle Ages though. Guess they lost the touch by the 19th century. Too much inbreeding I guess.


Vikings went to the Americas, yes, but they didn't go, take a bunch of nonWhite slaves, and return to Scandinavia.
And they were right because if they did scandinavia would be retty nonwhite by now!


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Why not? Because the 1/2 % of nonwhite in them? Ew!!!!
You did your math wrong.


No what you say that the ONLY way to have what you call "white" traits is through white ancestry. Thats way extreme and plain false.
A White trait is a trait that originated in WHITES. There is nothing stopping those traits from moving about and touching the rest of Earth.


Just shows though they can't even reproduce fast enough to work their own land. They could do it back in the Middle Ages though. Guess they lost the touch by the 19th century. Too much inbreeding I guess.
No.

Slaves didn't get an education and were born slaves-and died slaves.

The slave-owners children were sent to school, had jobs, and, sometimes, worked WITH the slaves.

And no, inbreeding doesn't really happen like you say it does. It's pretty rare nowadays and back then (except in Africa).



And they were right because if they did scandinavia would be retty nonwhite by now!
The nonWhites in Scandinavia nowadays are almost all Asylum Seekers (and Lapps).

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Quote: from kidd rune at 7:15 pm on Sep. 20, 2008

A White trait is a trait that originated in WHITES.
Circular reasoning.
Tell me a trait that is present among whites and ONLY among whites. None of the traits you mentioned

blond hair
blue eye
Rosy cheeks
etc...
are exclusive to whites.

There is no such thing as a WHITE trait.

As for orgin we don't know the origin and race of most of our ancestors. As Bud24 told you race was not something people cared about in ancient civilizations.


 The slave-owners children were sent to school, had jobs, and, sometimes, worked WITH the slaves.
So? Still does not explain WHY they needed slaves in the first place. I like why you say "no" or "wrong" and then go talk about something completely unrelated.

I also like how you fall for my baits every time I say "inbreeding" or "Shitholes". Its way fun man.
 


The nonWhites in Scandinavia nowadays are almost all Asylum Seekers (and Lapps).
yep but as I said if they had brought back nonwhite slaves you guys would be fucked so bad...

Conclusion:

1. Don't go colonize other countries if you are a race nationalist or you mess up their race and they mess up yours.

2. Don't take up slaves if you don't want to mess up your or other ppl race. Slave owners loved to fuck their slaves and make lots of mixed babies.

3. Stay in your little shit hole and nothing bad can come to you.


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Circular reasoning.
Tell me a trait that is present among whites and ONLY among whites. None of the traits you mentioned

blond hair
blue eye
Rosy cheeks
etc...
are exclusive to whites.

There is no such thing as a WHITE trait.

As for orgin we don't know the origin and race of most of our ancestors. As Bud24 told you race was not something people cared about in ancient civilizations.



1) Most traits originated in ONE person. If that ONE person was White, than it's a White trait and is only present in Whites and people with White ancestry.


So? Still does not explain WHY they needed slaves in the first place. I like why you say "no" or "wrong" and then go talk about something completely unrelated.
Slaves were labor, how hard is it to understand WHY they needed slaves?


2. Don't take up slaves if you don't want to mess up your or other ppl race. Slave owners loved to fuck their slaves and make lots of mixed babies.
That's not necessarily true. Some Empires had slave dumps where they dumped all of their slaves for fear of them being in their own country. Take France for example, they dumped all their slaves in Haiti. It's now over 95% Negro. It, also, is the shittiest country in the West.
Now, try to fuse that with France. Of course it would be worse, that's common sense.
They knew this, as did Britain (hence Jamaica).


3. Stay in your little shit hole and nothing bad can come to you.
Again, it wasn't a shithole, hence Scandinavian countries being some of the most developed countries on Earth.
Iceland and Norway are #1 and #2, Sweden is #6, Finland is #11, and Denmark is #14. The highest African country is Tunisia, ranked at #91. Knowing a bit of Tunisian history, you would know it's a small, Arabic nation with 95% of the population being 'Arab'. Next, at #104, is ANOTHER African Arab country, this time Algeria (97% Arab).
Now, if you want an African Negro country, Botswana would be the highest, ranked #124.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 10:13 am on Sep. 21, 2008

1) Most traits originated in ONE person. If that ONE person was White, than it's a White trait and is only present in Whites and people with White ancestry.
1. A FEW traits originate in one person not MOST traits
2. Give sources to that claim if they exist
3. IF is a big question and NOT proven
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Slaves were labor, how hard is it to understand WHY they needed slaves?
One wonders. If they are so GOOD at "working their ass off" and "creating countries" why do they need OUTSIDE help? Hmm maybe because they are just a bunch of FAIL?


That's not necessarily true. Some Empires had slave dumps where they dumped all of their slaves for fear of them being in their own country. Take France for example, they dumped all their slaves in Haiti. It's now over 95% Negro. It, also, is the shittiest country in the West.
Now, try to fuse that with France. Of course it would be worse, that's common sense.

Actually theres a shitload of nonwhites in France these days. ALL from their former colonies: Algeria, Nigeria, all kinds of African colonies, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam.

Most of the nonwhites in Britain also come from their former colonies. Like India, Pakistan, Jamaica, etc...If they didn't go mess around there they wouldn't show up in England.

Just shows you: if you DON'T mess around in nonwhite countries they won't show up at your doorstep!


Again, it wasn't a shithole
If they loved it so much they wouldn't go live someplace else. Scandinavia wasn't the most colonizing country in Europe. Most of it was from Britain (shitty weather, shitty kings) France (revolutions and shitty leaders), Spain (crazy kings and queens, inquisitions) and Netherlands (shitty weather, tiny country)

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1. A FEW traits originate in one person not MOST traits
You don't understand what I'm saying. Most traits that you see today originated, each, in ONE person. I'm not saying all the traits we see are from one individual.


2. Give sources to that claim if they exist
What do you mean? Give a source that states traits originate in people?

Should I also give you a guide on how to wipe your ass?



3. IF is a big question and NOT proven
We know. The chances of that person being a specific race are astronomical though. THAT's how they determine.

As the blue eyed trait that you see originiated in one person in the Black Sea region, they can assume that it's a White trait. The fact that White populations normally have it is ALSO a good indication.

And the fact that the countries you claim to have them, such as Iran and whatnot, had migrations FROM the Black Sea region and there is written records of Whites going to that area.


But, if you think that small, almost impossible chance is what happened, you go right on ahead and believe it!


One wonders. If they are so GOOD at "working their ass off" and "creating countries" why do they need OUTSIDE help? Hmm maybe because they are just a bunch of FAIL?
Nah. All races have used slaves, are all humans fail? If so, fail loses its meaning.

People keep slaves because people need a source of labour. Slaves are cheap because you would only buy or trade them and you wouldn't have to pay them.

It's easier to tell someone else to do work for you then to do it yourself.

You see, it wasn't viewed as morally wrong in any way back then to have slaves. To them, slaves weren't human, couldn't contribute anything to society, were property, and were savage beasts that needed a reason to live. With this in mind, they used them as work.

But, if you think all people that owned slaves were a bunch of fail, humans are just a large pile of fail, aren't they?



Actually theres a shitload of nonwhites in France these days. ALL from their former colonies: Algeria, Nigeria, all kinds of African colonies, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam.
A shitload? How much do you thin ka shitload is? The majority of their nonwhites are asylum-seeking Muslims, but a lot of Europe has that.


Most of the nonwhites in Britain also come from their former colonies. Like India, Pakistan, Jamaica, etc...If they didn't go mess around there they wouldn't show up in England.
Pakistanis are migrating ALL OVER Europe to seek a FREE roof over their head, not Britain in particular. I doubt the fact that they "messed around" with them is why they're migrating to leech off of the government.


Just shows you: if you DON'T mess around in nonwhite countries they won't show up at your doorstep!
That's not why they are destroying the countries, it's because they figured out that they can't make a country worth shit, so they IMMIGRATE into a country molded by Whites so they can, successfully, leech off of a government that actually has money.


If they loved it so much they wouldn't go live someplace else. Scandinavia wasn't the most colonizing country in Europe. Most of it was from Britain (shitty weather, shitty kings) France (revolutions and shitty leaders), Spain (crazy kings and queens, inquisitions) and Netherlands (shitty weather, tiny country)
"If they loved it so much they wouldn't go live someplace else"
That's a load of shit.
Other lands had gold, copper, iron, cotton, ect. that wouldn't grow in their small, European countries. They established infrastructure inside of the nonwhite countries to make trade easier.

It wasn't that they hated their countries, but that their small stretches of land weren't enough.

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