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Nice. Any"white country" you can name?

Look at the most developing countries.
# Iceland
# Norway
# Australia
# Canada
# Ireland
# Sweden
# Switzerland

# Netherlands
# France
# Finland

# Spain
# Denmark
# Austria
# United Kingdom
# Belgium
# Luxembourg
# New Zealand
# Italy (the north is white, but the south is the 'bad part' of the country anyway)

That's just the top 20 most developing countries (excluding 2).

Used by WHOM?

I already answered this.

Obviously

Of course, that's kind of the DEFINITION of White Nationalism. ANYONE that wants a white country is a white nationalist, regardless of race.

I have a basic questions/answers article about WN's if you want to read it.

Is that why they brought in Indians and singapour ppl?

Mhmm.

Oh yeah Iceland! what a great country! So powerful! So important! Good thing its gonna warm up a lot pretty soon too.

Iceland has very low crime rates, a high life expectancy (less than 2 years lower than #1), a very high literacy rate, their residents have a higher income than almost every other nation, there is literally no poverty, it has tremendous medical facilities and a great publishing business, virtually everyone has a telephone and has the 5th highest amount of mobile phones per person. Upon graduation from high-school, Icelandic students learn 4-5 languages. It has the smallest amount of government corruption and ranked 4th in life satisfaction (1-3 are tied).

I'm sure this is enough, I could go on more though.

Still using words you don't agree with?

What do you mean? Plenty of things in English don't make literal sense.

its still inside though. Gonna take a lot of get rid of that horrible stuff.

Time and isolation.

I know its funny how those genes would "disappear" just like that with a few mix. Must not be very resistant.

It's a 50/50 chance they'd be passed on. If only a slight population has those genes, eventually, the chances per person of having that would be so slim that they would, eventually, be lost.

So I can go breed with your sister?

I don't have one...

No! Really??? Wow who woulda thunk?

Heredity exceeds that of environment in a ratio of (at least)3 to 1. Most of your learning abilities, the majority to say the least, are inherited.

Sure they are superior and can do math while the parents live in a hut like pigs.

Superior? Nah. Instead of the 15-20% IQ gap, it's a 12-15%. It's an improvement, but it's still not equal.

What do you mean HAS ITS phenotype?

Take a 100% white and a 100% Negro. Is it hard to tell which is which?

A square can be considered in the rectangle category. Not the other way around.

That's what I said. "a rectangle is NOT a square but a square is a rectangle".

Define a white person.

Someone of either Nordish, Mediterranean, Baltic, Slavic, Dinaric, or Alpine genetic makeup (or a mix of those).
Do you not know what one is?

Define a nordish gene

There isn't really a "Nordish Gene", but genes that mutated and came to existence in purely Nordish environments and being held by Nords UNTIL they migrated and mixed with others. These genes can only be present in someone that has Nordish ancestry.

Define nordish charactieristics that are NEVER found in other races or groups.

Natural blond/red hair can't be found in anyone with 0% white ancestry. Natural blue/gray/green eyes can't be found in anyone with 0% white ancestry. Those are the easiest to see. I can give some bone structures, but that's less viewable by a human body, as hair/eyes are easily seen.

Now, remember, I said "Natural". There is this group of people somewhere in the Pacific that can have light hair IF they don't get enough of a certain vitamin.

And no number of pictures can disprove this as you CAN'T know if they have White ancestry.

The site I mentioned said the white looking guy had 33% amerindian and 28% african.
So ok NOT 67% its just 61% nonwhite and 39% white.

I'd like to see a picture of him if that's too much to ask for. Just curious.

Actual race can really only be determined by genes. Phenotypes say VERY little about it, You FINALLY get what I'm saying.

I've said this since the beginning. Race is not limited to Phenotype, but certain phenotypic traits can only exist with ancestry of certain races.

Not always. High cheek bones? among whites, blacks and amerindians,
Square chin? Amerindians have it
Not sure what you mean by "muscle shape"

I didn't use these examples.
http://raceandreason.110mb.com/files/Skulls_of_the_three_major_races.html
Look at the skull traits.

albinism is rare among all races. Albinism =/= paleskin Its a specific genetic condition
Many middle eastern ppl have pale skin.

Are you implying that the middle east was untouched by whites? Are you also implying that the middle east isn't primarily Caucasoid? They are about .02% different from the average Celt.

And where did I say anything about pale skin being a specifically White/Nordish trait?

Thats how YOU explain it. But thats not the ONLY POSSIBLE explanation. By a long shot.

How do you explain it? They, somehow, evolved in the EXACT SAME way, even with different environments and climates?

Sure. Some did. Some didn't. Besides there is a difference between ashkenazi, sephardic , ethiopian jews.

Of course there is. But, you can't prove that certain Jew has no White ancestry, can you?

So that little asian girl has white genes? You know THAT for sure?

Do you know she doesn't for sure? There are also medical conditions and defects (similar to Albinism) that causes this. In whites, it can be a normal trait.

The history of human migration is totally up in the air. No one knows for sure who moved where.

They're 100% certain that Aryans migrated into Iran. The name "Iran" itself comes from Aryan. I believe it means "Land of Aryans".

And there are over a thousand Nordic corpses that were uncovered in China alone, but now China halted further expeditions to the area(Wapu) in 1998.

For all we know the Iranians (and NOT the nordics)are the real ORIGINATORS of all the traits and civilizations you mention, They could be the ones with the wide variety of genes blond, black brown hair, pale, brown skin etc...

Not really. In 4000 BC, the Near East was predominantly original White Mediterranean with scattered groups of Alpine and Proto-Nordic sub groupings amongst them.

Who is to say they do or don't? until you make a genetic test. The little asin girl with rosy cheeks might have nordic ancestors or may be 100% pure stock asian.

We will never know, will we? I'm not so sure about the rosy cheeks thing anyway as it's rare itself. Nevertheless, it's probably a white trait.

You can 100% sure of somebody's genettic material without using scientifc means? You'll make a great scientist one day...

Just guess... Why are you avoiding it?

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

Oh what makes them "white" is % of population... Right.

And the majority of the Government.

What else would make it white?

You mean the mere fact of immigrating "messes up" the race.

If they didn't immigrate, the country would have less of a nonwhite influence and the whites would have a lesser chance of mixing.

BTW what race is this woman?

I don't know, but mostly white I assume.

Your frined ComminCanuck would have something to say about that.

He's my friend now? If he's really pro-communist, I want absolutely nothing to do with him. Also, if he thinks you have to be Nordish to be white, I don't want much to do with him either.

Why do you pick my friends?

You said yourself it it is not exact and you did not agree with it but "they" used it.

It's an idiom.

No it's a good indication that I am not as obsessed as you.

I'm a WN, I would, of course, want to know what one is. That's why I AM one.

It does NOT matter. They still were working as labor UNLIKE YOUR CLAIM that whites worked the place BY THEMSELVES.

Do you know how many were used and when? It was somewhat in the middle of the creation of South Africa. They already had much of the country itself created. And, also, they used it in the farmlands itself, only as labor in small amounts.

And, also, after slavery was abolished, many Whites trekked further north. Then, the British came and made a real country out of it, while slavery was abolished.

Negroes immigrated into SA by escaping harsh SSA conditions. Now, they leech off of the SA government (actually, that was a few years ago, not SA is turning into a large shit-hole).

So, yes, SA had nonwhites, but the country itself was created by whites. And no, nonwhites didn't "work their asses off" or even compared to whites as they weren't used as slaves or considered part of SA.

Sure. Then it interbreeds more and more and dies out.

Do you think a race that lives in isolation for a long time will, eventually, die out because they will all inherit harmful recessive mutations because of inbreeding?

Ah the American Renaissance. Another nice WN racist trash site. Nice nice.

It's a magazine...

What?

I can tell which without the use of color.

Describe it. Also what time frame are we talking about? How long did it it take for the"nordish genes" to appear?

The first racial types identifiable as similar to modern Whites first appeared in parts of Europe, southern Russia and the Near East during the time period 30,000 BC to 15,000 BC, following the end of the last great Ice Age around the year 40,000 BC.
The first real civilizations were said to come about in 5000BC, yet fixed settlements existed in 10,000BC.

Any OTHER source you got but raceandlackofreason.com ?

It's almost impossible for separate races to evolve in the exact same way.

Now, if the blue eyes were of different texture or composition, or the red hair or blond hair were, there could be reasoning behind that.

But if it is, in any way, similar to the Whites, I doubt it's very possible for the 7-or-so alleles to mutate in the same way.

Red-colored hair exists in Neanderthals, yet is very different and not considered "red hair", but red colored hair.

Nope. Genetic variation and polygnic traits basically tells you that pheotypes come from a wide variety of genes and that this variety of genes come from a variety of sources. How does genes mix can lead to many phenotypes and cheractersitics that have MAY have nothing to do with what your ancestor may or may not be.

If it wasn't purely found in Nordics or people with Nordic ancestry, it WOULD NOT be considered a Nordic trait.

You're seriously spewing bullshit. You seem like you just learned what genes are composed of and can't seem to get anything right.

At least copy and paste so I can understand what the hell you're saying, or trying to say.

I am not trying to prove that this is NOT POSSIBLE, YOU do! so the burden of proof is on you.

You're not claiming you can have Nordish traits without Nordish ancestors, are you? Are you claiming that with "Genetic variation" and "polygenic traits" that you can achieve the same results as another race without their genetic makeup?

Then why do try to separate from them? The more you micx with them the more the white genes will reappear!

No. Then nonWhite genes will ALSO appear.

If a country of ONLY Whites with ONLY White genes comes about, there will be NOTHING but white genes in existence inside of that country. If nonWhite genes are allowed inside in large numbers, they will become more common, something that defeats the whole purpose of a white nation.

If we let people that are, let's say, 20% White (that's how they get those white traits) and 80% nonWhite, the nonWhite genes will ALSO appear and be a burden.

Just because a bit of White genes exist in someone doesn't mean they're White, they just have White ancestry.

And the Jews need to go preserve themselves anyway.

But I make NO claim that nonwhite who have nordish traits MUST ALL have 1 ancestor who is white. You do. All I say is it is POSSIBLE that OTHER factors are involved.

Where did the Nordish traits come from? They emulated the exact evolutionary process that took tens of thousands of years for Whites to fulfill?

Until you do that though I have no reason to believe your claim. It is PURE guesswork.

Then almost nothing is provable, therefore almost everything is "moot".

All life is a lie.

You may not be a human, that's not provable!

Moot....

Actually I don't make such claims. I only say it is POSSIBLE. In fact the only way to PROVE that NO single nonwhite can have nordish trait WITHOUT a white ancestor is to TEST ALL OF THEM. That is YOUR claim. YOU have to back that up.

If someone without Nordish features has them, it's not a Nordish feature, is it?

And genetic testing is only so accurate. Sometimes, even having 0 nonwhite ancestors, they will claim you have some.

Let's say Mutation CAB2-Δ16(I'm just making up numbers/letters) gives immunity to Malaria. 95% of the people that have this mutation are of sub-Saharan African descent, 3% have Semitic descent, and 2% have Mediterranean descent.

Let's say some Saudi Arabian gets tested and the mutation appears in his DNA. They will classify that gene as 95% Negro, 3% Semite, and 2% white. This Saudi now has the claim of Negro genes on him and may not even have one Negro ancestor.

ALL you have is a few examples of people with nordish traits who DO have nordish ancestors. It does NOT PROVE this is true of ALL.

And you have NO examples of people with Nordish traits that have no definite Nordish ancestry.

Just look at the previous page on this thread. How lazy can you be?

I looked at the title and instantly agreed. I just closed it. Why read what I already know?

So we are back to color? I thought it was more than just color. I thought you were talking about traits and traits that can only be present among whites ASIDE from color.

I didn't say it was color. I hope you understand that a "White" doesn't necessarily have to be a white-skinned person, and white skin isn't any specifically racial trait.

I make no wild claims such as "No nonwhites can have nordish traits with they don't have white ancestry". I just present you with possibilities backed by SCIENTIFC facts which you want to deny or refute.

You can't have a Nordic trait without Nordic ancestry, that's common sense.

You can say the same of black then. No white can have african traits with theiy are not blacks". The problems is, aside from color, how do you defne those traits?

Negro traits. I have a list of black-white differences I've posted a few times. I think that was the first post you ever saw of mine.

Heres a blond melanesian.
Melanesia has been isolated for thousands of years.
The probability that the ONLY reason she is blond is because of white ancestor is very very slim. Now how do you explain that?

Ah, that. Most people don't really consider that "blond". It's called "sandy hair". The mutations are very different and, in no way, related.

I didn't know you considered that blond though...

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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