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Quote: from whoisabs at 5:38 pm on April 2, 2007

I am a strong supporter of the concept of choice, and thus consider myself to be pro-choice.

I support the choice to have sex. That sex is a concious act that individuals take part in, and in doing so make a voluntary choice to do so, with the exception of rape. I also have enough knowledge of science to understand that upon making the choice to have sex, that I am also making the choice to run the risk of having my sperm mix with a woman's eggs to produce a separate and unique individual. Rape is when your right to choice has been violated, thus any obligation to future consequence is null and void.

I also support the choice to live or not. That if an individual wants to kill themselves for whatever reason, then they should be allowed to do as such. Thus if someone is so poor, or so unloved that their quality of life is to a point where their life is not worth living, then they should have the right to make the choice to continue living or not.

In support of the choice to live or not also follows that other individuals should not be allowed to force either of those conditions upon another individual, unless said individual has done something to forefit their rights. That a person who has made grievous crimes has forefitted their right to make their own choice about life or death, thus the state is allowed to make the choice for them. That an individual who has attempted to attack another and as such is attempting to take away that person's right to choice is in effect forefitting their own right to choice and as such the person being attacked has every right to choose to kill the attacker or not in the defense of their own personal right to choose.

When abortions take place there is no regard for choice, with exception to medical emergancies and sometimes rape. The child's right to decide if it lives or not is being violated, and the violators of said rights should be punished. Anyone who would do such a thing simply is proving that they oppose the very concept of choice, and are in effect anti-choice.




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Guess what.

Your opinions =/= people's choices.

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Fucking loved it. I'm saving this if you don't mind.

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I agree with the majority.

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What do you consider a child, though?  A viable fetus or a barely formed embryo that bares more of a resemblance to a chest-burster than a human being?

Because I'm starting to see why legal protections for viable fetuses(23 weeks) would make sense...But prior to that, not so much.

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Yay murder!

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Quote: from Baron Samedi at 10:42 pm on Nov. 4, 2009

What do you consider a child, though? A viable fetus or a barely formed embryo that bares more of a resemblance to a chest-burster than a human being?

Because I'm starting to see why legal protections for viable fetuses(23 weeks) would make sense...But prior to that, not so much.


Is humanity now based on looks or survival without assistance?

If so then why can't we kill really ugly people and those in comas?


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thanks for the rehash of your stupid opinions

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Abs, you must realize that your argument doesn't account for the fact that a fetus is not the same as a human capable of making that choice - it's no more than potential, not actuality.

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Can't expect the anti-science crowd to admit that an organism that has the DNA of a human and the life cycle of a human is somehow a human.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 9:41 pm on Nov. 5, 2009

Can't expect the anti-science crowd to admit that an organism that has the DNA of a human and the life cycle of a human is somehow a human.

If it comes down to the value of multiple, developed human beings vs the mere potential of a blob of human cells that might become a single developed human, I don't see how there is any question which takes priority.

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So abs, you don't believe in sexual intercourse without the purpose of reproduction?

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