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Philosophy is a bitch
Replies: 15Last Post Nov. 5 8:54pm by murphy mcbagel
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think about it
when ur dreaming, u dont know ur dreaming
sooo when u "wake up" how do u know u really woke up?
how do u know that "reality" isnt simply a dream?
like if u dream ur a butterfly n wake up, did u really dream ur a butterfly n wake up? or are u a butterfly that just started dreaming that its a human?

PHILOSOPHY
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I lose so much sleep over this...

...or am I just dreaming?


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Reality is a dream.

Alcohol takes you out of it.
Or so some drunk person once told me.

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I love philosophy.

How do you know this entire existence isn't a dream?
That we won't wake up and be aliens in some alternate universe, and that when we wake up, that we'll just forget this entire story?
How do you know our entire existence isn't part of someone else's dream?
Maybe none of us are real.

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Post edited at 8:32 pm on Nov. 5, 2009 by carracer

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I know when I am dreaming. Lucid dreaming is the best.

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Quote: from carracer at 8:31 pm on Nov. 5, 2009

I love philosophy.

How do you know this entire existence isn't a dream?  
That we won't wake up and be aliens in some alternate universe, and that when we wake up, that we'll just forget this entire story?
How do you know our entire existence isn't part of someone else's dream?
Maybe none of us are real.


and when we wake up as those aliens in another universe.....maybe then were simply a dream of something else dreaming that


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Quote: from rollinraver at 8:34 pm on Nov. 5, 2009

Quote: from carracer at 8:31 pm on Nov. 5, 2009

I love philosophy.  

 How do you know this entire existence isn't a dream?
 That we won't wake up and be aliens in some alternate universe, and that when we wake up, that we'll just forget this entire story?  
 How do you know our entire existence isn't part of someone else's dream?  
 Maybe none of us are real.


and when we wake up as those aliens in another universe.....maybe then were simply a dream of something else dreaming that


The scariest part is that the average person does not remember most of his dreams. What if the creature doesn't remember the dream?
Our entire universe is destroyed then.

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y'know scientist same that there is a 20 percent chance that we dont exist, but that we live in a fake world like the matrix

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I'm not going for the dream idea- when we dream, we imagine the world we live in, with some minor alterations.
If I were really an alien dreaming to be a human, I would remember alien things in my dream. If I'm an alien about to be born, and have nothing alien to remember, then this reality is still the only reality that exists for me, dream or no.

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Quote: from sertrbl at 8:38 pm on Nov. 5, 2009

I'm not going for the dream idea- when we dream, we imagine the world we live in, with some minor alterations.
If I were really an alien dreaming to be a human, I would remember alien things in my dream. If I'm an alien about to be born, and have nothing alien to remember, then this reality is still the only reality that exists for me, dream or no.

but for all u know
something else entirely
could be dreaming all of that too


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Quote: from sertrbl at 8:38 pm on Nov. 5, 2009

I'm not going for the dream idea- when we dream, we imagine the world we live in, with some minor alterations.
If I were really an alien dreaming to be a human, I would remember alien things in my dream. If I'm an alien about to be born, and have nothing alien to remember, then this reality is still the only reality that exists for me, dream or no.

If this were a fetus' dreamed reality, would we have to assume that somehow all fetus' have unreal memories that they forget?

What if the reason the alien dreams of being a human is because humans exist in the alien world?

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lmao okay heres on..

if were not real, what makes us do what we desire?

if were in a dream, why do we get hurt?, if the dream is just a dream of reality past content, then where is the dream?...


is a dream just made up though sleep?, do we sleep at all?, how would we know that we're really awake if life around us has changed so much....

and if life has changed, where are the signs to prove to me, that im real?, am i real?, or is this a reality created by a god?

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Quote: from ninxy1029 at 8:42 pm on Nov. 5, 2009

lmao okay heres on..

if were not real, what makes us do what we desire?

if were in a dream, why do we get hurt?, if the dream is just a dream of reality past content, then where is the dream?...

 
is a dream just made up though sleep?, do we sleep at all?, how would we know that we're really awake if life around us has changed so much....

and if life has changed, where are the signs to prove to me, that im real?, am i real?, or is this a reality created by a god?


It's impossible to tell what makes us do what we desire if we are unreal, but I can't say that any of us have been the other characters in our dreams and we therefore do not know if they could possible have their own thoughts.

I'll follow you're second question with a question. Why do people die in dreams? I'm not sure what you mean about the question after that though, so restructuring the sentence would be greatly appreciated.

Well a dream could be made in sleep, but then again the dream could occur during what we perceive as consciousness. Maybe both dreams and consciousness are actually consciousness and sleep is fake. We don't know when we're really awake, if at all, and that's why we're having this discussion.

I don't think that we can prove if we're real. Wouldn't all of our efforts take place on the same world that does or does not exist? If the world does not exist, then the efforts are futile because they are formed with matter than in non-existent. About God, that's a whole philosophical conversation.

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i'll just put my own skittile here: when you no longer feel psychotic delusions and while they seem like intimidating words for you to truly not know, to then understand, is well for me was to wake up from a dream.
that's my philosophy. it's not even full grown yet, just a little plant.

Post edited at 8:56 pm on Nov. 5, 2009 by murphy mcbagel

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