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Ancient Rights
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I know when I am dreaming. Lucid dreaming is the best.
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OVAN
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y'know scientist same that there is a 20 percent chance that we dont exist, but that we live in a fake world like the matrix
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8:38 pm on Nov. 5, 2009 | Joined: Mar. 2009 | Days Active: 17 Join to learn more about OVAN California, United States | Straight Male | Posts: 130 | Points: 302
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sertrbl
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I'm not going for the dream idea- when we dream, we imagine the world we live in, with some minor alterations. If I were really an alien dreaming to be a human, I would remember alien things in my dream. If I'm an alien about to be born, and have nothing alien to remember, then this reality is still the only reality that exists for me, dream or no.
------- Trust me, I'm a scientist.
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carracer
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Quote: from sertrbl at 8:38 pm on Nov. 5, 2009
I'm not going for the dream idea- when we dream, we imagine the world we live in, with some minor alterations. If I were really an alien dreaming to be a human, I would remember alien things in my dream. If I'm an alien about to be born, and have nothing alien to remember, then this reality is still the only reality that exists for me, dream or no.
If this were a fetus' dreamed reality, would we have to assume that somehow all fetus' have unreal memories that they forget? What if the reason the alien dreams of being a human is because humans exist in the alien world?
------- The world is only as sweet as you make it and only as terrible as you see it
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8:42 pm on Nov. 5, 2009 | Joined: Dec. 2007 | Days Active: 283 Join to learn more about carracer New York, United States | Straight Male | Posts: 10,828 | Points: 14,563
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ninxy1029
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lmao okay heres on.. if were not real, what makes us do what we desire? if were in a dream, why do we get hurt?, if the dream is just a dream of reality past content, then where is the dream?... is a dream just made up though sleep?, do we sleep at all?, how would we know that we're really awake if life around us has changed so much.... and if life has changed, where are the signs to prove to me, that im real?, am i real?, or is this a reality created by a god?
------- I'm a fool for falling but im a bigger fool for allowing it to hurt me
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carracer
Enlightened One
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Quote: from ninxy1029 at 8:42 pm on Nov. 5, 2009
lmao okay heres on.. if were not real, what makes us do what we desire? if were in a dream, why do we get hurt?, if the dream is just a dream of reality past content, then where is the dream?... is a dream just made up though sleep?, do we sleep at all?, how would we know that we're really awake if life around us has changed so much.... and if life has changed, where are the signs to prove to me, that im real?, am i real?, or is this a reality created by a god? 
It's impossible to tell what makes us do what we desire if we are unreal, but I can't say that any of us have been the other characters in our dreams and we therefore do not know if they could possible have their own thoughts. I'll follow you're second question with a question. Why do people die in dreams? I'm not sure what you mean about the question after that though, so restructuring the sentence would be greatly appreciated. Well a dream could be made in sleep, but then again the dream could occur during what we perceive as consciousness. Maybe both dreams and consciousness are actually consciousness and sleep is fake. We don't know when we're really awake, if at all, and that's why we're having this discussion. I don't think that we can prove if we're real. Wouldn't all of our efforts take place on the same world that does or does not exist? If the world does not exist, then the efforts are futile because they are formed with matter than in non-existent. About God, that's a whole philosophical conversation.
------- The world is only as sweet as you make it and only as terrible as you see it
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8:51 pm on Nov. 5, 2009 | Joined: Dec. 2007 | Days Active: 283 Join to learn more about carracer New York, United States | Straight Male | Posts: 10,828 | Points: 14,563
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