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I've always been of the opinion that if you don't have the good sense to have safe sex, you should not be having sex.

There's no reason to hate teen mothers though.

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Quote: from Kaijew at 2:16 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Your acting like they can turn off being pregnant like a light switch, but just choose not too

    abortion

     

    murder



   not to everyone

   

  To the ones that consider it murder, it isnt like a light switch



  Thats when you decide not to be a dumbass and not have sex until you are in a situation that would not be shitty for them or the child
  A situation that would be hard for a child to fuck up

 

 Thats not an option for a person thats already pregnant



You act like he didn't say that there were ways to prevent it
Pregnancy is not inevitable
And abortion IS an option
if they want to keep the fetus then it is their own stupid fault and the whole situation could have been prevented in the first place

Oh abortion is an option

its just murder, thats all

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Quote: from tda93 at 2:06 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

What about rape? What if a girl gets raped then has a child? She has no choice.
Yeah she does have a choice. She can get an abortion.

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Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:19 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:16 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Your acting like they can turn off being pregnant like a light switch, but just choose not too
       
     abortion

    murder


     
    not to everyone

   To the ones that consider it murder, it isnt like a light switch


   
  Thats when you decide not to be a dumbass and not have sex until you are in a situation that would not be shitty for them or the child    
  A situation that would be hard for a child to fuck up

  Thats not an option for a person thats already pregnant


 
 You act like he didn't say that there were ways to prevent it  
 Pregnancy is not inevitable  
 And abortion IS an option  
 if they want to keep the fetus then it is their own stupid fault and the whole situation could have been prevented in the first place

Oh abortion is an option

its just murder, thats all



IYO

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Quote: from Kaijew at 2:21 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:19 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:16 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:05 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:01 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Quote: from Brando Pernando at 1:54 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Your acting like they can turn off being pregnant like a light switch, but just choose not too

      abortion

       

     murder



    not to everyone

     

    To the ones that consider it murder, it isnt like a light switch



   Thats when you decide not to be a dumbass and not have sex until you are in a situation that would not be shitty for them or the child
   A situation that would be hard for a child to fuck up

   

  Thats not an option for a person thats already pregnant



  You act like he didn't say that there were ways to prevent it
  Pregnancy is not inevitable
  And abortion IS an option
  if they want to keep the fetus then it is their own stupid fault and the whole situation could have been prevented in the first place

 

 Oh abortion is an option  

 its just murder, thats all



IYO

Killing a human is murder, simple as that

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Enough with abortion is murder or it isn't murder.
It shouldn't be so freely available and it should only be given in serious cases but yes sometimes it is necessary.
Yes that is just my opinion so don't shoot me down.

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I LAUGED SO HARD!
HAHAHAHAHA
" your kids wil hate you cause your stupid!"
" I dont want to see anyone else who looks like you"

i agree but disagree with you at the same time

tuche!!!


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Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:23 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:21 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:19 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:16 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:05 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:04 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Quote: from Kaijew at 1:59 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 1:57 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 1:55 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 1:54 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Your acting like they can turn off being pregnant like a light switch, but just choose not too
         
      abortion

      murder


       
     not to everyone

    To the ones that consider it murder, it isnt like a light switch


     
    Thats when you decide not to be a dumbass and not have sex until you are in a situation that would not be shitty for them or the child      
    A situation that would be hard for a child to fuck up

   Thats not an option for a person thats already pregnant


   
  You act like he didn't say that there were ways to prevent it    
  Pregnancy is not inevitable    
  And abortion IS an option    
  if they want to keep the fetus then it is their own stupid fault and the whole situation could have been prevented in the first place

  Oh abortion is an option

  its just murder, thats all


 
 IYO

Killing a human is murder, simple as that


I wouldn't give a damn if it was 5
but we are talking about a fetus. It knows nothing about anything outside of the womb, and cannot support itself outside of the womb until the third trimester and third trimester abortions are illegal
I really don't give a shit if you think it is murder
but the option is there
and if someone is stupid enough to have sex before they are ready for a child and wont get an abortion they have no one but themselves to blame

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Quote: from Kaijew at 2:37 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:23 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:21 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:19 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:16 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:05 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:04 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:01 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 1:59 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 1:57 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 1:55 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 1:54 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Your acting like they can turn off being pregnant like a light switch, but just choose not too

       abortion

         

      murder



      not to everyone

       

     To the ones that consider it murder, it isnt like a light switch



    Thats when you decide not to be a dumbass and not have sex until you are in a situation that would not be shitty for them or the child
    A situation that would be hard for a child to fuck up

     

    Thats not an option for a person thats already pregnant



   You act like he didn't say that there were ways to prevent it
   Pregnancy is not inevitable
   And abortion IS an option
   if they want to keep the fetus then it is their own stupid fault and the whole situation could have been prevented in the first place

   

  Oh abortion is an option    

  its just murder, thats all



  IYO

 

 Killing a human is murder, simple as that


I wouldn't give a damn if it was 5
but we are talking about a fetus. It knows nothing about anything outside of the womb, and cannot support itself outside of the womb until the third trimester and third trimester abortions are illegal
I really don't give a shit if you think it is murder
but the option is there
and if someone is stupid enough to have sex before they are ready for a child and wont get an abortion they have no one but themselves to blame

Fetus = human

killing human = murder

killing fetus = murder

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Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:39 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:37 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:23 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:21 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:19 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:16 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:05 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 2:04 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 2:01 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 1:59 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 1:57 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 1:55 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Brando Pernando at 1:54 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Your acting like they can turn off being pregnant like a light switch, but just choose not too
           
        abortion

       murder


         
      not to everyone

      To the ones that consider it murder, it isnt like a light switch


       
     Thats when you decide not to be a dumbass and not have sex until you are in a situation that would not be shitty for them or the child        
     A situation that would be hard for a child to fuck up

    Thats not an option for a person thats already pregnant


     
    You act like he didn't say that there were ways to prevent it      
    Pregnancy is not inevitable      
    And abortion IS an option      
    if they want to keep the fetus then it is their own stupid fault and the whole situation could have been prevented in the first place

   Oh abortion is an option

   its just murder, thats all


   
  IYO

  Killing a human is murder, simple as that


I wouldn't give a damn if it was 5  
 but we are talking about a fetus. It knows nothing about anything outside of the womb, and cannot support itself outside of the womb until the third trimester and third trimester abortions are illegal  
 I really don't give a shit if you think it is murder  
 but the option is there  
 and if someone is stupid enough to have sex before they are ready for a child and wont get an abortion they have no one but themselves to blame

Fetus = human

killing human = murder

killing fetus = murder



fetus= potential human that can't support itself
in my eyes its no better than a person in a vegetative state
its completely useless
It can't feel pain and it cant do anything for itself and relies on someone else for its body to function
its less than human
its a worthless shit until it can do something for itself


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Quote: from Kaijew at 5:21 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from tda93 at 2:06 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

What about rape? What if a girl gets raped then has a child? She has no choice.
Yeah she does have a choice. She can get an abortion.

Abortion isn't an option for everyone.  Some people don't see it as one and it cannot be put into the equation.  If a woman is raped, and does not feel right about abortion, that doesn't make her stupid, it makes her a mother.  

As far as a fetus being a potential human that is incorrect.  And egg and a sperm are potential humans.  A fetus is a developing human.  It is a human in every sense.

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Quote: from Chiefette at 3:49 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 5:21 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from tda93 at 2:06 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

What about rape? What if a girl gets raped then has a child? She has no choice.
Yeah she does have a choice. She can get an abortion.

Abortion isn't an option for everyone. Some people don't see it as one and it cannot be put into the equation. If a woman is raped, and does not feel right about abortion, that doesn't make her stupid, it makes her a mother.

 

As far as a fetus being a potential human that is incorrect. And egg and a sperm are potential humans. A fetus is a developing human. It is a human in every sense.


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lol

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Quote: from Kaijew at 4:15 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

lol


Lol AKA your right, but i have no good arguments left

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Quote: from Brando Pernando at 7:24 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

Quote: from Kaijew at 4:15 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

lol

 
Lol AKA your right



Yep.

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