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Do asexuals exist?
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http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=are-there-asexuals-among-us-on-the-2009-10-29


But actually, some scientists believe that there may be a fourth sexual orientation in our species, one characterized by the absence of desire and no sexual interest in males or females, only a complete and lifelong lacuna of sexual attraction toward any human being (or non-human being). Such people are regarded as asexuals. Unlike bisexuals, who are attracted to both males and females, asexuals are equally indifferent to and uninterested in having sex with either gender. So imagine being a teenager waiting for your sexual identity to express itself, waiting patiently for some intoxicating bolus of lasciviousness to render you as dumbly carnal as your peers, and it just doesn't happen. These individuals aren't simply celibate, which is a lifestyle choice. Rather, sex to them is just so ... boring.


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From a realist's point of view, I don't think it's possible. The scientific evidence apart, humans are made to reproduce. Attraction comes hand in hand with that. So I don't think anyone can claim Asexuality for real.

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There's always going to be a group for something. It can be possible to show no attraction, yet sometimes those occurences happen because of prescribed medication, or health reasons. So perhaps, if that were the case, it was just a side affect. Like a side affect for no sexual interest.

If medication wasn't the cause for altering, then maybe ir could be possible. Yet, can one truly be asexual, not showing any attraction to anything? Perhaps it's just a lack of interest during that time.

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Quote: from Ass FUCK Supreme at 6:16 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

From a realist's point of view, I don't think it's possible. The scientific evidence apart, humans are made to reproduce. Attraction comes hand in hand with that. So I don't think anyone can claim Asexuality for real.

I think that asexual is the appropriate term here because there are people who don't have a sexual attraction to others.  Maybe humans' only purpose isn't to reproduce.  If it was, then even homosexuals wouldn't exist.  

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I think there's always going to variation. I am not a scientist so I can't really say, but if sexual attraction is purely a hormonal thing, and you don't have said hormones, then you won't experience it. Libido varies from person to person of any orientation, and I don't find it hard to believe that some simply have no libido.


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Quote: from Ass FUCK Supreme at 2:16 am on Nov. 3, 2009

From a realist's point of view, I don't think it's possible. The scientific evidence apart, humans are made to reproduce. Attraction comes hand in hand with that. So I don't think anyone can claim Asexuality for real.

You really don't understand biological variation, do you?

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Quote: from Moridin at 1:29 pm on Nov. 9, 2009

Quote: from Ass FUCK Supreme at 2:16 am on Nov. 3, 2009

From a realist's point of view, I don't think it's possible. The scientific evidence apart, humans are made to reproduce. Attraction comes hand in hand with that. So I don't think anyone can claim Asexuality for real.

You really don't understand biological variation, do you?



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Yes, they do exist. I imagine complete asexuals are rare, but people who simply have a very low sex drive are probably not as much - I know one such individual quite well. He connects with people on an empathic level, but not not so much a sexual one. Several people in high school thought he was gay, but he honestly just wasn't interested.
He'd much rather either play around with tech stuff / work on computers or help out his church and youth groups.

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Quote: from Ass FUCK Supreme at 5:16 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

From a realist's point of view, I don't think it's possible. The scientific evidence apart, humans are made to reproduce. Attraction comes hand in hand with that. So I don't think anyone can claim Asexuality for real.

See my above post.
Biological variation ensures that not all traits are going to be beneficial. Thus, asexuality would be rare, but entirely possible, and as my example points out people who just have a very low sex drive aren't all that rare.

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Quote: from Stormblazer at 7:40 am on Nov. 10, 2009

Quote: from Ass FUCK Supreme at 5:16 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

From a realist's point of view, I don't think it's possible. The scientific evidence apart, humans are made to reproduce. Attraction comes hand in hand with that. So I don't think anyone can claim Asexuality for real.

See my above post.
Biological variation ensures that not all traits are going to be beneficial. Thus, asexuality would be rare, but entirely possible, and as my example points out people who just have a very low sex drive aren't all that rare.


I don't care, tbh.

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Yes I think it's possible they exist, and yet I imagine that a high number of people who claim to be asexual are, in fact, not. A lot of people seem to be unclear of the actual definition of asexuality, and sometimes confuse it with celibacy or impotence.

I heard a large percentage of asexuals have chromosomal disorders or autism or something of the sort, so I'd imagine one day science may find a relationship between something genetic and this sexual orientation. But in the mean time, I tend to think of asexuality to be something like homosexuality - it isn't what humans are instinctively or naturally made for, but variations of sexuality are obviously possible. If some people can be born without lungs, be born without sight, be born without taste, then surely they can grow up to be adults with no sexual attraction to anyone or anything.  Perhaps a dysfunction or abnormality of the body or brain, but still possible.


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Quote: from roflfuckyou at 10:19 pm on Nov. 12, 2009

I heard a large percentage of asexuals have chromosomal disorders or autism or something of the sort, so I'd imagine one day science may find a relationship between something genetic and this sexual orientation.  

I'm sure I've read something about scientists already having found links between genetics and sexual orientation...

I'll try to find a link

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Citation:

[Book; Authored Book]The science of desire: The search for the gay gene and the biology of behavior.
Hamer, Dean H.; Copeland, Peter
New York, NY, US: Simon & Schuster. (1994). 272 pp.

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In "The Science of Desire," [the author] explains the thinking behind his study [of a gene marker linked to male homosexuality], how the experiments were actually carried out, and what the discovery means. [This book] expands on [the author's] history-making research to explore the scientific, social, and ethical issues raised by his findings. He explains why the old "nature versus nurture" dichotomy is a false one, why the discovery of a genetic link doesn't mean that everyone with the gene will be gay or that everyone who is gay has the gene, and how the gene might act through personality traits such as independence and self-reliance. Dr. Hamer also addresses such tough questions as whether it would be possible or ethical to test in utero for the gay gene and whether genetic manipulation could or should be used to alter a person's sexuality; how a gay gene could have survived evolution; and why the discovery of this 1st genetic link to a human behavior is so important for the future of genetic research—and of mankind. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2009 APA, all rights reserved)


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The above extract deals only with male homosexuality, and it is important to realise that there is clearly more research to be done on this one aspect of sexual orientation.

Eventually (years and years from now) scientists will have discovered genetic links for all of the subcategories of sexual orientation. And not only that, genetic links will probably be discovered for more general human behaviours.

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Quote: from frenchnerd7 at 12:54 am on Nov. 28, 2009

The above extract deals only with male homosexuality, and it is important to realise that there is clearly more research to be done on this one aspect of sexual orientation.

Eventually (years and years from now) scientists will have discovered genetic links for all of the subcategories of sexual orientation. And not only that, genetic links will probably be discovered for more general human behaviours.


You fail basic biology; phenotypical traits are caused by genes and environment.

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