I am personally wondering if anyone feels the same way as me about how people shouldn't bring God and religion into important and/or scientific topics.  Because the bible was written in a time where science was never known it shouldn't be refered to for an answer for many different subjects such as homosexuality.

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Excess verbosity.

However, this should be done with gentleness and respect, not at random times.

The bible of course is not a scientific textbook, nor should ppl think it is. It doesnt tell you how or when the world was created. But it tells you who and why.

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If you have Jesus as Lord and saviour of you life, its only natural for you to be talking about him. Theres a joy that you experience when you become a christian, that sometimes you cant help sharing the good news.

However, this should be done with gentleness and respect, not at random times.  

The bible of course is not a scientific textbook, nor should ppl think it is. It doesnt tell you how or when the world was created. But it tells you who and why.

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Yes, the bible makes truth claims regarding how and when the world was created.

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Quote: from gronk at 4:50 am on Mar. 13, 2009

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If you have Jesus as Lord and saviour of you life, its only natural for you to be talking about him. Theres a joy that you experience when you become a christian, that sometimes you cant help sharing the good news.  

 However, this should be done with gentleness and respect, not at random times.

 The bible of course is not a scientific textbook, nor should ppl think it is. It doesnt tell you how or when the world was created. But it tells you who and why.

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Yes, the bible makes truth claims regarding how and when the world was created.

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said in such a matter of fact tone.

according to the bible when was the world created?

answer in the beginning.

Genesis is poetry, in particular Genesis 1-12, its metaphoric, some theologians suggest that Adam and Eve were not actually real people, but just a representation.

Myself I dont neccearily go that far, but the point is not to equate it to an alternative to science

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The Christian's argument is logical in the context of a religious interpretation of the subject, but it strays away from the actual subject which assumes the premise that the Earth is millions of years old, thus making the argument moot.

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the bible never says the earth is 6000 years old, nor does it make any claim to how old the earth is

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Depends on how you interpret it. If you're going to take Genesis literally (which a lot of people do), then by adding up the ages of Adam and his descendents and then adding that number to the year people guess to be the year that the Hebrews left Egypt or something along those lines, you come up with ~6000. It may be an incorrect interpretation, but it's also incorrect to suggest that the Bible says absolutely nothing about the age of the earth in anyone's perspective.

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Quote: from gronk at 9:44 am on Mar. 14, 2009

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the bible never says the earth is 6000 years old, nor does it make any claim to how old the earth is

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Depends on how you interpret it. If you're going to take Genesis literally (which a lot of people do), then by adding up the ages of Adam and his descendents and then adding that number to the year people guess to be the year that the Hebrews left Egypt or something along those lines, you come up with ~6000. It may be an incorrect interpretation, but it's also incorrect to suggest that the Bible says absolutely nothing about the age of the earth in anyone's perspective.

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thats an incorrect interperation.
It was common practise in historical genealogies to ommit generations of people who were insignificant, especially when doing long genelogies

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 2:50 am on Mar. 15, 2009

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Quote: from gronk at 9:44 am on Mar. 14, 2009

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the bible never says the earth is 6000 years old, nor does it make any claim to how old the earth is

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 Depends on how you interpret it. If you're going to take Genesis literally (which a lot of people do), then by adding up the ages of Adam and his descendents and then adding that number to the year people guess to be the year that the Hebrews left Egypt or something along those lines, you come up with ~6000. It may be an incorrect interpretation, but it's also incorrect to suggest that the Bible says absolutely nothing about the age of the earth in anyone's perspective.

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thats an incorrect interperation.  
It was common practise in historical genealogies to ommit generations of people who were insignificant, especially when doing long genelogies

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Which is all well and good but doesn't change the fact that the Bible can be read in such a way as to suggest an age for the earth of ~6000 years.

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Quote: from gronk at 7:56 pm on Mar. 14, 2009

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 2:50 am on Mar. 15, 2009

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Quote: from gronk at 9:44 am on Mar. 14, 2009

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the bible never says the earth is 6000 years old, nor does it make any claim to how old the earth is

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  Depends on how you interpret it. If you're going to take Genesis literally (which a lot of people do), then by adding up the ages of Adam and his descendents and then adding that number to the year people guess to be the year that the Hebrews left Egypt or something along those lines, you come up with ~6000. It may be an incorrect interpretation, but it's also incorrect to suggest that the Bible says absolutely nothing about the age of the earth in anyone's perspective.

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 thats an incorrect interperation.
 It was common practise in historical genealogies to ommit generations of people who were insignificant, especially when doing long genelogies

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Which is all well and good but doesn't change the fact that the Bible can be read in such a way as to suggest an age for the earth of ~6000 years.

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sure and you could read King Lear and say it is about incest

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