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TigressaLynnMae
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Aristocrat: We have been over this many times. You cannot prove God, any more than I can disprove God. You do not know if He exists, or if He exists in many forms, in forms of Gods, hell, even Goddesses. Sorry, but there is no proof. Not all 'fake gods' as you so kindly put it, are known in what they look like. Many, such as my Gaia, have no Face, have really no gender, or human qualities. And that is the last time I will feed your trolling.
------- *Forever & Always...Yours*
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Aristocrat
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Quote: from TigressaLynnMae at 10:28 am on July 13, 2009
Aristocrat: We have been over this many times. You cannot prove God, any more than I can disprove God. You do not know if He exists, or if He exists in many forms, in forms of Gods, hell, even Goddesses. Sorry, but there is no proof.
Of course there is a dozen of proof if you allow yourself to see it or think about it wisely. Don't go too far just look around you. Look at the creation for example the forest in the jungle who is taking care of the trees or the grass? And who planted it? Look at the sky, the moon, the stars; who created all those? A man? Even Antony Flew the world famous atheist came to conclusion that there must be a God because not one who is intelligently blessed enough to have created all these things he said (not those exact words but paraphrasing don't want to make the post longer as it is already). ======= The Holy Qur'an also provides us with an accurate description of deep waters in the ocean, where darkness prevails. Nobody could dive deep enough in the ocean 1428 years ago and come back to tell about what he saw there. Only the One who has created Earth and its oceans could know. For us, Philippe Causteau and his crew showed us some videos about only some parts of the ocean depth, in the 1980s. In Chapter 24, Verse 40 of the Holy Qur'an, Allah (Praise to Him) says: "Or (the Unbelievers' state) is like layers of darkness in a vast deep ocean overwhelmed with waves topped by waves, topped by clouds: Layers of darkness, one above another, if a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it! For anyone to whom Allah does not make light, he has no light." [Qur'an 24:40] In Chapter 24, Verse 43 of the Holy Qur'an, Allah (Praise to Him) vividly describes the water cycle, from winds to clouds, then to rain. He says: "Do not you see that Allah makes the clouds move gently, then joins them together, then makes them into a heap? Then, you will see rain coming out of it. And He sends down from the sky mountain masses (of clouds), which include hail. He strikes with it whom He wills and He turns it away from whom He wills. The vivid flash of its lightning is close to blinding the sights (of people)." [Qur'an 24:43] In Chapter 30, Verse 48, Allah (Praise to Him) also says: "It is Allah Who sends the Winds, and they raise the Clouds. Then, He spreads them in the sky as He wills, and break them into fragments, until you see rain-drops coming out from the midst of it. When He makes them reach whoever He wills of his servants, then they rejoice! " [Qur'an 30:48] The Holy Qur'an tells us in several verses that Allah (Praise to Him) has created plants in pairs (male and female) in order for plant reproductive activities to happen leading to giving us the fruits we enjoy on this planet. In Chapter 20, Verse 53, Allah (Praise to Him) also says: "... and (God) has sent down water from the sky. With it We have produced diverse pairs of plants." In Chapter 13, Verse 3, Allah (Praise to Him) also says: "and all fruits, He made in them pairs, two each (a male and a female)." [Qur'an 13:3] Post edited at 3:43 pm on July 13, 2009 by Aristocrat
------- Kullu 3aam wa'antum bikheyr Eiid Mubaarak! :)
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Aristocrat
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وَمِن كُلِّ ٱلثَّمَرَٲتِ جَعَلَ فِيہَا زَوۡجَيۡنِ ٱثۡنَيۡنِۖ In Chapter 31, Verse 10, Allah (Praise to Him) also says: "We send down water from the sky, (so) We cause goodly pairs (of plants and animals) to grow out." [Qur'an 31:10] وَأَنزَلۡنَا مِنَ ٱلسَّمَآءِ مَآءً۬ فَأَنۢبَتۡنَا فِيہَا مِن ڪُلِّ زَوۡجٍ۬ كَرِيمٍ In Chapter 36, Verse 36, Allah (Praise to Him) also says: "Glory to Him, Who created all pairs, of what the earth produces, of themselves (humans), and of others unknown to them." [Qur'an 36:36] سُبۡحَـٰنَ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ ٱلأًَزۡوَٲجَ ڪُلَّهَا مِمَّا تُنۢبِتُ ٱلأَرۡضُ وَمِنۡ أَنفُسِهِمۡ وَمِمَّا لا يَعۡلَمُونَ
The suggestion can be made that if an individual doesn't see the evidence of God in the magnificence of His creation, they would be well advised to take another look. As Francis Bacon is noted to have commented, "I had rather believe all the fables in the legend, and the Talmud, and the alcoran (i.e. the Quran), than that this universal frame is without a mind."[4] He went on to comment, "God never wrought miracle to convince atheism, because his ordinary works convince it."[5] Worthy of contemplation is the fact that even the lowest elements of God's creation, though perhaps ordinary works in His terms, are miracles in ours. Take the example of as tiny an animal as a spider. Does anybody really believe that such an extraordinarily intricate creature evolved from primordial soup? Just one of these little miracles can produce up to seven different kinds of silk, some as thin as the wavelength of visible light, but stronger than steel. Silks range from the elastic, sticky strands for entrapment to the non-adhesive drag-lines and frame threads, to the silk for wrapping prey, making the egg sac, etc. The spider can, on demand, not only manufacture its personal choice of the seven silks, but reabsorb, breakdown and remanufacture--self-recycling from the component elements. And this is only one small facet of the miracle of the spider.
Lauren B Brown MD
Not all 'fake gods' as you so kindly put it, are known in what they look like. Many, such as my Gaia, have no Face, have really no gender, or human qualities.
You probably would not like to hear this but I will say it anyways. Because humans make all these imagination into their head, like that of the imaginary friends in order to create their fake "gods." You would be shocked to hear how some of us human create things to worship besides idols. Some people worship cows, some people worship the sun and some even imaginary "gods."
And that is the last time I will feed your trolling.
I am not a troll alright... if I was I would not go and waste my time trying to give you a legitimate answer to your raise claims would I? Of course not. I wouldn't have even bother rather I would just go on with my two liners to get under your skin nerve system, but I didn't simply because I am not a troll. Post edited at 3:49 pm on July 13, 2009 by Aristocrat
------- Kullu 3aam wa'antum bikheyr Eiid Mubaarak! :)
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