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Quote: from Moridin at 4:20 pm on June 28, 2009

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You reposed this nonsense here? Sad. I said it before and ill say it again: science is backed by evidence, faith is not. Therefore, science beats faith every time.

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Posted it here first. got no responses.

You've misread the post again. I'm not sure it's valid, but the objections you've raised have been less than convincing for why this is wrong.  

Prior to our knowledge of gravity wells, we thought that masses simply attracted. while our predictions and calculations were close approximations, and newtonian mechanics still worked pretty well for large, slow bodies, the overall understanding of the reality of things was wrong. This is what I'm talking about.

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Since they where close approximations, they where not wrong. That's the whole point.

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"The larger the island of knowledge, the longer the
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Quote: from Event Horizon at 6:26 am on June 29, 2009

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Quote: from Moridin at 4:20 pm on June 28, 2009

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You reposed this nonsense here? Sad. I said it before and ill say it again: science is backed by evidence, faith is not. Therefore, science beats faith every time.

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 Posted it here first. got no responses.  

 You've misread the post again. I'm not sure it's valid, but the objections you've raised have been less than convincing for why this is wrong.

 Prior to our knowledge of gravity wells, we thought that masses simply attracted. while our predictions and calculations were close approximations, and newtonian mechanics still worked pretty well for large, slow bodies, the overall understanding of the reality of things was wrong. This is what I'm talking about.

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Since they where close approximations, they where not wrong. That's the whole point.

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Yup. 2.8 = 3

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Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful.It's the transition
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Wikipedia: Today, time intervals can be measured extremely precisely, to the point where the metre is now defined officially as the distance light travels in "vacuum" in 1⁄299,792,458 of a second.

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I know, right?! Totally the same thing. I mean, it's not like anything actually happens within a fraction of a second...oh...wait...

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Wikipedia: Today, time intervals can be measured extremely precisely, to the point where the metre is now defined officially as the distance light travels in "vacuum" in 1⁄299,792,458 of a second.

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I'm not sure I get it...?

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Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful.It's the transition
that's troublesome.   --Isaac Asimov

In even simpler terms, comparing science to religion, mysticism, faith, is futile because they're not comparable. Even though faith can operate with much of science, science cannot with faith. Therefore trying to explain faith in scientific terms is also futile. That is why you can't PROVE or DISPROVE a religion; because you're trying to use science to do so.

I suppose this is much more of a rant than a coherent thought, but try to understand. :)

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Personally I believe faith cannot be compared to science. Although they are both belief methods, faith is outside the realm of science. I consider religion science plus some. Religion is the entire Oreo cookie and science is the cream. No matter how much to try to explain and describe the outside cookie, you can't if you only know cream.

In even simpler terms, comparing science to religion, mysticism, faith, is futile because they're not comparable. Even though faith can operate with much of science, science cannot with faith. Therefore trying to explain faith in scientific terms is also futile. That is why you can't PROVE or DISPROVE a religion; because you're trying to use science to do so.

I suppose this is much more of a rant than a coherent thought, but try to understand. :)

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Comparing the principles of science and faiths often leads to nonsense. But that does not mean that they are not comparable.

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Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful.It's the transition
that's troublesome.   --Isaac Asimov