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All Black people are ALL the same. Do you agree?
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Quote: from soyahyah at 12:15 am on July 19, 2009

Quote: from Moonscar at 8:55 pm on July 18, 2009

Quote: from soyahyah at 8:48 pm on July 18, 2009

most african americans are...but some are not...  

 so no


 

 That itself is offensive. That's like me saying most white people like cheese. I don't know that for sure but I've seen a lot of white people who like cheese so in conclusion most like it    

 idiot.


 

 
most african americans do have self hate..why do you think they straighten their hair and bleach their skin, highest divorce rates,  

ok I take my gneralazation back, it was offensive and I apoligize but some of it is true..African americans have a lot of self hate...


a lot of Caucasian people tan. does that mean they have self-hate?


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a lot of Caucasian people tan. does that mean they have self-hate?
Tanning doesn't make you as dark as Negroes - there is a clear difference between the skin color of Negroes and Whites, and no overlap.

That means a full blooded Negro (If not albino or have any skin disorder) will always be darker than a full blooded White man.

But of course there are Caucasians that are as dark as Negroes, but since Moonscar said "White people" I assume that's who you were referring to, as the two terms are often confused.

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For the whole self-hating thing, I used to bleach my skin when I was about 13-15,  but then one day I realized there was no point in it. Why stress myself over trying to be what I'm not? Not saying I wanted to be white, but I simply wanted to be lighter. Nowadays, I just appreciate what I was born with. I see my physical self with a lot more positivity because I learned to accept the way I am and embrace it.

As for straightening/relaxing hair, I only had my hair straightened because my mother wanted it that way. And plus its easier to manage. But I'm not doing that anymore, I'm transitioning back to my natural hair. Happy to be nappy~ It may be tricky, but its what I was born with, so why not?

But I don't think relaxing or straightening your hair is a sign of self-hate. I highly doubt those who relax/straighten do it to be more Caucasian. Everyone has their reasons.

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Afrocentricity FTW!

But the only people I hear saying that straightening/relaxing hair is "white" are black  nationalists. They suck.


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Quote: from kidd rune at 1:28 pm on July 19, 2009

Tanning doesn't make you as dark as Negroes
And changing your hairdo does not make you white I am sure you agree.

So why is it "self-hating" for blacks to change their hairstyle and not self-hating for whites to tan?  

Also is this person "self-hating" or is she nonwhite?  



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Quote: from jakelong at 6:02 pm on July 19, 2009

So why is it "self-hating" for blacks to change their hairstyle and not self-hating for whites to tan?
GOOD POINT!!

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Quote: from jakelong at 6:02 pm on July 19, 2009

Quote: from kidd rune at 1:28 pm on July 19, 2009

Tanning doesn't make you as dark as Negroes
And changing your hairdo does not make you white I am sure you agree.  

So why is it "self-hating" for blacks to change their hairstyle and not self-hating for whites to tan?


I never said it was self hating, nor did I claim a hairdo makes you White.

Actually, the difference is tanning makes you darker, but never as dark as a Negro will be.

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So you agree that it is not self hating of blacks to change their hairdo?

What do you think is the race of the person in the pic?

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I don't think it's self hating for Negroes to change their hairdo, but I can't speak for all of them.

As for the person in the pic, do you have a side shot - and how specific do you want to get?

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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   This kind of topic really worries me.It invites racism by implication & I find many of the responses confusing
    I'm sure one can make generalizations about any group of people & they will be true to degree that one is aware of huge areas of overlap with other groups, so the statement can act only as a rough estimate.
    For instance I'm aware that some black Americans straighten their hair to look more like whites & do so out of self dislike even racial dislike, but I don't think one can generalise about that too much since most of us are fashion victims to some degree & all over the world men & women are seeking to alter their appearence in order to look like some idealized 'other'.Are brunettes dyeing blonde, girls wearing high heels,Japanese trying for round eyes, all signs of some racial self hatred. I don't think that is likely
    The girl in the picture could be mixed race,like most of us.But with pale eyes she could be  Celtic,Spanish,or Greek All before & after a long holiday in the sun.But so what? Why is it important?
     These days 'Black' seems to mean 'non -white' without taking into account all the different shades of 'non-white'so it is a meaningless term.
      Similarly 'white ' is not defined, as though it is obvious when it isn't.Greeks ,Italians & Spaniards were considered non white in Aystralia for a long time as they were in England.The Nazis considered blue eyed blondes only to be real whites.I'm blue eyed & ash blonde but come from a family with many browneyed brunettes.My mother passed as South African Coloured ,a Maori in NZ,An Indian in NZ & S Africa. & a Mexican in the US.She was English Anglo-Saxon.
       O know I'm labouring the obvious but I'm doing so because I suspect this sort of topic.Its implications of dividing us up into some specious heirarchy in a nudge- nudge wink- wink. sort of way.Why is everybody so concerned about non -whiteness in countries like the US in ways that are not to do with poverty & its commcomitants.What is it with Americans & race?          
 

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Quote: from kidd rune at 3:25 pm on July 19, 2009

As for the person in the pic, do you have a side shot - and how specific do you want to get?
just the 5 race classification is enough



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I disagree with you except for the illiterate part, since I'm black and I can't read.

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I disagree with the "Black people straighten their hair because of self hate" part. Maybe some do, but most people around here just do it because of the look.

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Quote: from jakelong at 3:34 am on July 21, 2009

Quote: from kidd rune at 3:25 pm on July 19, 2009

As for the person in the pic, do you have a side shot - and how specific do you want to get?
just the 5 race classification is enough


That's easy, she would be a Caucasoid.

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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Quote: from ElectricLadyflash at 2:12 pm on July 19, 2009

As for straightening/relaxing hair, I only had my hair straightened because my mother wanted it that way. And plus its easier to manage. But I'm not doing that anymore, I'm transitioning back to my natural hair. Happy to be nappy~ It may be tricky, but its what I was born with, so why not?  

Whoo! Me too!  

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