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If they earn income they do have to pay taxes. Many would like to find jobs but the programs are not available everywhere.

Its funny how you don't know what you talking about.


I prison they are employed and have normal jobs?
What prisons are you going to?


Be my guest no one is stopping you.

But then don't complain that Holocaust deniers are jailed.


There are no Holocaust "Deniers" - only REVISIONISTS.

They don't deny the Holocaust.
This is probably the 100th time I've said that...

And maybe they should just be allowed to have their own beliefs?


And that means you are liked more?
Usually.


Prisoner never receive death threats? Death row inmates don't have a death threat hanging over them? Inmates in jail don't ever have threats to their life??? Most ppl in jail have to fight every day with made-up knives and weapons because other inmates try to kill them.

Do you EVER try to know something before typing or do you just make idiotic stuff just to fill space????


Good job Jakey - you iterated what you've seen in movies.

Ask someone that has been to jail if MOST people have death threats and are attacked.

Zundel wore a helmet during his trials because he's been attacked just walking in the court room.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 10:41 am on Dec. 25, 2008

Ask someone that has been to jail if MOST people have death threats and are attacked.

I know 2 or 3 guys who went to juvie and/or jail. They were attacked all the time. One of my buds got 5 inch slash on his leg from a shank. So yeah there's plenty of death threat and other threas in jail.

Stop speaking out of your ass.

Here's what goes on  in case you really dont know.


In 2000, there were 34,000 inmate on inmate assaults reported.


According to a recent Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief (Harrell, June, 2005), which included data from the National Crime Victimization Survey for the period 1998 through 2003, "victims perceived perpetrators to be gang members in about 6% of violent victimizations between 1998 and 2003. On average for each year,
gang members committed about 373,000 of the 6.6 million violent victimizations.

http://www.prisoncommission.org/statements/byrne_james_m.pdf


A study of four Midwestern states in 2000 found that about 1 in 5 inmates experiences some form of pressured or coerced sexual conduct while incarcerated (Struckman-Johnson & Struckman-Johnson, 2000). According to Stephen Donaldson, the president of the organization Stop Prisoner Rape and previous inmate victim of prison rape, roughly 300,000 inmates are sexually abused each year (Donaldson 1995). Courts not only recognize that "homosexual rape is commonplace" in prison, but they also make a point to depart from sentencing guidelines if they believe that a convicted felon is particular vulnerable to rape, and fits the "prisoner rape victim profile"

http://www.insideprison.com/prison-rape.asp


An estimated 60,500 inmates (or 4.5% of all State and Federal inmates) experienced one or more incidents of sexual victimization involving other inmates or staff.

Nationwide, about 2.1% of inmates reported an incident involving another inmate and 2.9% reported an incident involving staff.

Among the 146 prison facilities in the 2007 NIS, 6 had no reports of sexual victimization from the sampled inmates; 10 had an overall victimization rate of at least 9.3%.

Among the 10 facilities with the highest overall prevalence rates, 3 had prevalence rates of staff sexual misconduct that exceeded 10%.


I bet thats just scraping the surface. The data on in-jail gang violence is barely reported because the prison admin don't want to look bad.

So yeah Im sure you'd love it jail.

But I forgot you're a fag. You probably LOVE to be gang banged by a bunch of 300 lbs guys...

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I know 2 or 3 guys who went to juvie and/or jail. They were attacked all the time. One of my buds got 5 inch slash on his leg from a shank. So yeah there's plenty of death threat and other threas in jail.

Stop speaking out of your ass.

Here's what goes on  in case you really dont know.


Where did I say jail was all pleasant and fun?
Nowhere.

But I do know not all of the people in jail are attacked in assaulted.


In 2000, there were 34,000 inmate on inmate assaults reported.
Out of how many people? Millions?


I bet thats just scraping the surface. The data on in-jail gang violence is barely reported because the prison admin don't want to look bad.
Wow - 4.5%, 2.1%, 9.3%, and even 10%.

How about having a 100% chance of being kicked out of your job and sent to jail and being assaulted in the streets for believing something?
And they don't even get the choice to leave - some of the revisionists tried immigrating to the USA for freedom of speech and were sent back and put in prison.


So yeah Im sure you'd love it jail.

But I forgot you're a fag. You probably LOVE to be gang banged by a bunch of 300 lbs guys...


Nah.

But if I was an adult with a wife and kids I'd rather go to jail to endanger myself than endanger my wife and kids with the chance of them getting my house bombed and them killed.

People are just so evil nowadays...

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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:31 pm on Dec. 27, 2008

Where did I say jail was all pleasant and fun?
Nowhere.

You said you prefered being jail than being called a racist,


But I do know not all of the people in jail are attacked in assaulted.
Not all racists are either. Fact is its easier to hide being a racist than to hide being a criminal.


Out of how many people? Millions?
Whats the rate for racists?


 How about having a 100% chance of being kicked out of your job and sent to jail and being assaulted in the streets for believing something?
In the US? Prove it. Besides I thought you said you PREFER jail. Well there you go.


Nah.
Nah? Doesn't sound too definite. I think you like that.


But if I was an adult with a wife and kids I'd rather go to jail to endanger myself than endanger my wife and kids with the chance of them getting my house bombed and them killed.
Because the wife and kids of the guys who are jailed or criminals DON'T gets threats? Fuck shows you little you know about that.  

Try being in gangs and its not just yourwife and kids that get it. Its your mom and brother and sisters. If they suspect you seuqeal to the cops or if you in the rival gang your family is in TOTAL danger. They can get shot, killed but the wors is your sisters or even your mom can be raped at will while you in jail.

yeah fuck what do YOU even know about criminal life?

In the US its easier to be racist than a criminal,
In Eurpe being a denier may give you trouble because they are treated LIKE criminals.

But I thought you said deniers aren't racist so I don't see why you use that as example UNLESS you admit that deniers ARE RACIST.


People are just so evil nowadays...
No shit.

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You said you prefered being jail than being called a racist,
I'd rather be in jail than considered racist by the American public.
Just being called racist on some random forum isn't anything.
The word isn't even offensive itself - just how you're treated when people call you it.



Not all racists are either. Fact is its easier to hide being a racist than to hide being a criminal.
And many people that aren't racist at all are considered racist for beliefs that aren't racist (but many consider them so) and for being previously racist - yet not anymore.

And they still can't live a normal life.


Whats the rate for racists?
Statistics for the number of racists and assaults on racists is nonexistent.

And just because they're not assaulted doesn't mean they won't be treated fairly.

And it's not just racists - it's people CONSIDERED racist. Keep that in mind.


In the US? Prove it. Besides I thought you said you PREFER jail. Well there you go.
I'd prefer it ONLY because I'd be looked down upon and kicked out of my job and denied service.
I'd probably leave the country if I had the chance though.

And you think if I walked into work and framed a picture of a KKK member and hung it on my wall and refused to take it down I'd be fired?


Nah? Doesn't sound too definite. I think you like that.
You would THINK that, wouldn't you?


Because the wife and kids of the guys who are jailed or criminals DON'T gets threats? Fuck shows you little you know about that.
I'm sure they do - but it all depends on what they did. If they murdered someone in a gang then their family would be put in shit for that.

But usually it doesn't happen - and it doesn't happen at the rate of revisionists and other "Racists."


Try being in gangs and its not just yourwife and kids that get it. Its your mom and brother and sisters. If they suspect you seuqeal to the cops or if you in the rival gang your family is in TOTAL danger. They can get shot, killed but the wors is your sisters or even your mom can be raped at will while you in jail.
I'd rather not be in a gang like that. Or anything centered around something that isn't constructive - for example: Violence, fraud, or anything else criminal related.


yeah fuck what do YOU even know about criminal life?

In the US its easier to be racist than a criminal,
In Eurpe being a denier may give you trouble because they are treated LIKE criminals.


Criminals are everyday people that nobody gives two shits about because they are SEPARATED and ISOLATED from the real world.
Nobody cares because they don't AFFECT them.

Now - "Racists" aren't the same. Technically - they're doing absolutely nothing wrong and are protected by the constitution.

Though previous history of The KKK (Especially the 3rd era) could harm the reputation of a nonviolent, peaceful Klansman and prohibit him from living a normal life - when he really isn't doing anything wrong at all.

People say that Klansmen cover their faces because they're pussies that don't want people to know who they are - but I see it as the love their family and wouldn't want anyone to hurt them, and them acting peaceful doesn't mean everyone else is.

We all see who the better man is.


But I thought you said deniers aren't racist so I don't see why you use that as example UNLESS you admit that deniers ARE RACIST.
They are viewed as racist so it's entirely relevant to how "Racists" are treated in the USA.
By "Denier" I assume you mean revisionists - and I can honestly and truthfully say that Holocaust revisionism doesn't have anything to do with racist attitudes of the revisionists. There are revisionists of many races, ethnicities, cultures, countries, political parties, religions, and more.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 4:58 pm on Dec. 27, 2008

I'd rather be in jail than considered racist by the American public.
So then why whine about racists being jailed? Thats where you like to be!


And many people that aren't racist at all are considered racist for beliefs that aren't racist (but many consider them so) and for being previously racist - yet not anymore.
Oh boohoohoo and hats worse than being in jail right? Get a life.


Statistics for the number of racists and assaults on racists is nonexistent.


And just because they're not assaulted doesn't mean they won't be treated fairly.
SO? No one is treated fairly.


And it's not just racists - it's people CONSIDERED racist. Keep that in mind.
yeah Ill cry on your poor pathetic life.


I'd probably leave the country if I had the chance though.
And then get in jil for being a denier? Ok you must really LIKE going to jail


And you think if I walked into work and framed a picture of a KKK member and hung it on my wall and refused to take it down I'd be fired?
You can hang pictures at your work? I thought you're 15. Where do you work that you can hang your own pics?


But usually it doesn't happen - and it doesn't happen at the rate of revisionists and other "Racists."
What? Are you trying to say that gangbangers "usually" don't get killed????? Are you really SERIOUS or just PLAIN STUPID?


I'd rather not be in a gang like that.
MOST gangs are like that. Wake and find out what goes on out there.


Or anything centered around something that isn't constructive - for example: Violence, fraud, or anything else criminal related.
Didn't you claim criminals had it easy compared to racists? Well if you're a riminal you're more likely to be raped and killed and your family being threatened.


Criminals are everyday people that nobody gives two shits about because they are SEPARATED and ISOLATED from the real world.
What? Thre's criminals where you LIVE I bet. Go look at registered sex offenders. I bet you can find at least 3 within 2 miles of where you live EVEN in a good neighborhood. And thats JUST REGISTERED criminals. Thre's plenty of cirminals living arounf everyon else.

Why do you think they came up with the CRIME/NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH system?

Because ANYONE can be a criminal and live around non criminals and if we don't watch it'll be TOO LATE by the time we find out what they do.

http://www.usaonwatch.org/Resources/NSANW.php
http://www.usaonwatch.org/EZine/EZineMainArticle.php?EZineID=20081219

They have that program even in the rich and safe areas not just the bad areas like where I live.

Fuck its amazing you never even heard of that. Or maybe you just pretend just so you can argue for nothing.

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So then why whine about racists being jailed? Thats where you like to be!
Because then you're both.
Being in jail is horrible - but being considered a "Racist" - even if you aren't racist at all - can be worse.


Oh boohoohoo and hats worse than being in jail right? Get a life.
Well if you get your house bombed and your family killed - yes it is.


SO? No one is treated fairly.
Many people are treated fairly (Or better than that) actually.


yeah Ill cry on your poor pathetic life.
You know nothing of my life - and you have proven that countless times. Why would you call it worthless if you know nothing about it?
Because you're a retarded, White-hating, race mixing, pussy?
Don't even answer that - I know the answer.


And then get in jil for being a denier? Ok you must really LIKE going to jail
Not all countries have Holocaust denial laws (Keep in mind I'm not a denier too).

Switzerland used to have freedom of speech.
One man, Jürgen Graf, decided to write a book on the Holocaust in private. He was a teacher. He asked the principal of his school if he could publish it - and he said that he didn't care because Switzerland is protected by freedom of speech.

Nevertheless, he got fired.
Then he moved to Asia.


You can hang pictures at your work? I thought you're 15. Where do you work that you can hang your own pics?
I'm speaking of later in life when I get a job with an office.
You can hang pictures up in an office...

But try not to avoid the question - I expect an answer in your next post.



What? Are you trying to say that gangbangers "usually" don't get killed????? Are you really SERIOUS or just PLAIN STUPID?
We're speaking of ALL criminals and EVERY person in jail - don't limit it to certain groups.


MOST gangs are like that. Wake and find out what goes on out there.
I know that many are like that - hence why I said "I'd rather not be in a gang LIKE THAT"


Didn't you claim criminals had it easy compared to racists? Well if you're a riminal you're more likely to be raped and killed and your family being threatened.
I didn't say they had it easy compared to people that are publicly considered racist - but I did say the average criminals family doesn't recieve as many threats, attempts at violence, or mistreatment as the average "Racists" family.



What? Thre's criminals where you LIVE I bet. Go look at registered sex offenders. I bet you can find at least 3 within 2 miles of where you live EVEN in a good neighborhood. And thats JUST REGISTERED criminals. Thre's plenty of cirminals living arounf everyon else.
The closest sex offender to my house is 8 miles away.
They give you that information when you move here and every on the day you moved here.
My family moved to this house in November back when I was in elementary school so we get an update every November.

If someone moves in that's a sex offender they come to your door and alert you.
That didn't happen.

But I DO have to take in to account the people illegally living here...


Why do you think they came up with the CRIME/NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH system?

Because ANYONE can be a criminal and live around non criminals and if we don't watch it'll be TOO LATE by the time we find out what they do.


But I was talking about people in jail - you do know that.


http://www.usaonwatch.org/Resources/NSANW.php
http://www.usaonwatch.org/EZine/EZineMainArticle.php?EZineID=20081219

They have that program even in the rich and safe areas not just the bad areas like where I live.

Fuck its amazing you never even heard of that. Or maybe you just pretend just so you can argue for nothing.


Or maybe you misenterpreted. I was speaking of how the people in jail were treated - correct?

Criminals out of jail aren't in jail.

It's like saying people that ARE racist and nobody else knows it are treated well so it doesn't count.

It doesn't fit into the argument at all.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 4:03 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Because then you're both.
Being in jail is horrible - but being considered a "Racist" - even if you aren't racist at all - can be worse.

Being in jail sucks no matter who you are or aren't.


Well if you get your house bombed and your family killed - yes it is.
As I said many gangagers have their family threatened and killed.


Many people are treated fairly (Or better than that) actually.
Oh that right ONLY Nazis are treated unfairly.


You know nothing of my life
If you live in fear of your faimly being killed because you racist then its pretty pathetic.


Because you're a retarded, White-hating, race mixing, pussy?
At least Im not some racist neonazi fag without balls.


Don't even answer that - I know the answer.
Too late.


(Keep in mind I'm not a denier too).
Sure and pigs also fly.


Then he moved to Asia.
And destroyed asian races? Gencide!!!


I'm speaking of later in life when I get a job with an office.
Oh because you already KNOW you will get a job in an ofice and have YOUR OWN office? (not just a cubicle but an office).
 

We're speaking of ALL criminals and EVERY person in jail - don't limit it to certain groups.
Most ppl in jail are for theft anddrugs and most are former or current gangbangers. And those who are just in jail for petty or white colar crimes quicly leanr in jail to fight back with knives and fists or else they don't last long either.


I didn't say they had it easy compared to people that are publicly considered racist - but I did say the average criminals family doesn't recieve as many threats, attempts at violence, or mistreatment as the average "Racists" family.
How do you know?
Check out this guy

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335490,00.html

He's not a racist

http://backseatcuddler.com/2008/10/13/mel-b-and-family-receive-death-threat/

are they known racists?

http://www.andpop.com/article/11761

Criminals yeah but racist?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-villa_park_signoct17,0,1501910.story

Oh yeah that right Obam suporters are racist of course

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article679386.ece

Are soldiers racist?

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=92bed713a3c7a72317837af1cdbe555a

The list goes on. Many public figures or those involved in politics get death threats to them and their families.

You don't shit stop wasting time trying to make up shit.

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As I said many gangagers have their family threatened and killed.
But you're limiting it to only gangbangers when we're talking about ALL people in jail.


Oh that right ONLY Nazis are treated unfairly.
Where the hell did "Nazis" come into this? They don't even exist anymore (Except for a few old people).


If you live in fear of your faimly being killed because you racist then its pretty pathetic.
Good thing I don't.
Good thing I'm not racist either.

And it's not living in "Fear" - though people just LOVE to equate everything with fear.


At least Im not some racist neonazi fag without balls.
So you admit to it.
Good thing I'm not racist.
Good thing I'm not a neonazi.
Good thing I'm not a fag.
Good thing I have balls. Two of them to be exact.

You know, there has to be an ounce - no, a milligram - of validity to your statement to offend anyone with a sane mind.


Sure and pigs also fly.
Well I don't deny the Holocaust so I don't think I'm a "Holocaust denier" unless the meaning itself changed.


Also:


And destroyed asian races? Gencide!!!
He didn't mix and he fully assimilated into the culture, learned the language, and didn't leech of the government.

He only stayed for a few years.


Oh because you already KNOW you will get a job in an ofice and have YOUR OWN office? (not just a cubicle but an office).
This isn't even up to debate. You FAILED to answer my question.
I will urge you to do so in your next post or I will be forced assume that you're a nutless retard.


Most ppl in jail are for theft anddrugs and most are former or current gangbangers. And those who are just in jail for petty or white colar crimes quicly leanr in jail to fight back with knives and fists or else they don't last long either.
Good job watching TV and movies.
How many people in jail do you know?
Not all jails are like that!
I CAN see where you're coming from because California has a lot of this due to their racial mixture, White gangs, Black gangs, Mexican gangs (Which sometimes split into Northern and Southern Mexicans), and whatnot.
There is a lot of violence because they are culturally incompatible and grabbing the criminals out of the bunch isn't going to help one bit.

If you go to some other prisons it's not the case and violence is quite rare if you stay to yourself.

But that's not in TV and movies because, believe it or not, that would be quite a boring movie.


How do you know?
Check out this guy

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335490,00.html

He's not a racist

http://backseatcuddler.com/2008/10/13/mel-b-and-family-receive-death-threat/

are they known racists?

http://www.andpop.com/article/11761

Criminals yeah but racist?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-villa_park_signoct17,0,1501910.story

Oh yeah that right Obam suporters are racist of course

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article679386.ece

Are soldiers racist?

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=92bed713a3c7a72317837af1cdbe555a

The list goes on. Many public figures or those involved in politics get death threats to them and their families.

You don't shit stop wasting time trying to make up shit.



Okay Jakey.
Find where I siad that unless you're considered racist you CAN NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, get death threats.

Please find it.
I beg you to.

Now - I said that people publicly considered racist get death threats towards them more often than the average criminal.

Politics or public figures or anyone else that didn't break the law doesn't count towards either of them.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:36 pm on Dec. 29, 2008

Good thing I don't.
Good thing I'm not racist either.

Is that why you prefer being in jail than being called racist? uh-huh.


Good thing I'm not racist.
Prove it.

Good thing I'm not a neonazi.
Prove it.

Good thing I'm not a fag.
prove it.

Good thing I have balls. Two of them to be exact.
Nah they were cut off at birth.


Well I don't deny the Holocaust so I don't think I'm a "Holocaust denier" unless the meaning itself changed.
Is that why you called it the Holohoax repeatedly?


He didn't mix
But you KNOW that JUST LVING with other races destroys them right? Otherwise why do you need your country to be 100% white?


and he fully assimilated into the culture, learned the language, and didn't leech of the government.
But you said that race is more than cultue and language anyway. So long as he is not 100% gentically asian he is destroying the asian race just by living there.


He only stayed for a few years.
Thats enough to do the damage.


I will be forced assume that you're a nutless retard.
I don't have to be forced in your case. I already know you are one.


Good job watching TV and movies.
Good job failing to know real ppl who went to jail and juvie.


How many people in jail do you know?
1 in jail 2 in juvie.


If you go to some other prisons it's not the case and violence is quite rare if you stay to yourself.
You know this from personal experience?



 Find where I siad that unless you're considered racist you CAN NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, get death threats.
You said that it is "easier" for criminals than for racists and started whining about racists having death threats.


 Now - I said that people publicly considered racist get death threats towards them more often than the average criminal.
So you have any stats to back that up? otherwise you are just talking out of your ass.

As usual.

You could say the same about ppl who are publicly considered homosexual or publicly considered anti-government or publicly into politics.

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Is that why you prefer being in jail than being called racist? uh-huh.
It's because I KNOW the consequences of being considered racist publicly.


Prove it.
Silly old Jakey.
Making claims himself and telling me to back myself up.

It is YOUR job to back up YOUR claims.
You said that I WAS so PROVE it.


Nah they were cut off at birth.
Oh, this is good:
Prove it.


Is that why you called it the Holohoax repeatedly?
I told you this in another post:
I'm sorry if me calling it the "Holohoax" made you think I denied it all because it didn't.
I'm sorry for your misunderstanding.
You can stop calling me a Holocaust Denier and blatantly lying now.


But you KNOW that JUST LVING with other races destroys them right? Otherwise why do you need your country to be 100% white?
That's destroying culture and potentially destroying race.

But one person isn't enough.

But one person often brings another, who brings a family, who brings another family, then it escalates into the thousands.

But Mr. Graf just visited and left.
Nothing wrong with that.


But you said that race is more than cultue and language anyway. So long as he is not 100% gentically asian he is destroying the asian race just by living there.
But he didn't mix with Mongoloids(I assume you mean that because "Asian" isn't a race and Asia is filled with many races) so he didn't do any of that.
And he lived for a few years.


Thats enough to do the damage.
Obviously not.
You read my posts and forget the details and only the main ideas and fill in your own, INCORRECT details.


I don't have to be forced in your case. I already know you are one.
Oh god you ignored the question AGAIN Jakelong.

How many times is that - three? Four?
And you get pissy at ME for supposedly doing that.

Alright - if someone had a job with an office, and they were White - and they put up a picture of the Klan on their wall for everyone to see, would they get fired?



Good job failing to know real ppl who went to jail and juvie.

1 in jail 2 in juvie.



Juvenile hall... Well that has to be the biggest load of shit I've heard.

You have to look at it both ways. I'm speaking of ADULTS - so you must speak of ADULTS.

Juvenile hall is full of a bunch of gangster G kids that want to beat up each other for their street creds.
It's more hectic than real prison.

So that leaves ONE person.
That's not too accurate.


You know this from personal experience?
Obviously not because I'm not 18 or older.


You said that it is "easier" for criminals than for racists and started whining about racists having death threats.
1st, you don't know what "Whining" really is - you just throw it in to make yourself seem "Tough."

And just because it's easier doesn't mean it's easy.


So you have any stats to back that up? otherwise you are just talking out of your ass.

As usual.


I know plenty of publically "Racist" people that have/had death threats thrown at them and if the same percentage of people had that in prison than you'd surely have statistics at hand to prove it.


You could say the same about ppl who are publicly considered homosexual or publicly considered anti-government or publicly into politics.
We're not talking about them.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:08 am on Dec. 30, 2008

It's because I KNOW the consequences of being considered racist publicly.
Just as I said you're a coward without the courage of your convictions.


 Making claims himself and telling me to back myself up.
I thought you were the expert on that twist.


It is YOUR job to back up YOUR claims.
What claims? You made Claims too and did not prove ANY of them.


Oh, this is good:
Prove it.

I already did. In fact ALL your posts prove it. You don't even have the balls to admit you racist. what a loser.


me calling it the "Holohoax" made you think I denied it all because it didn't.
Calling the Holocaust a hoax is NOT a denial of the Holocaust? Thats a new twist.


I'm sorry for your misunderstanding.
Apologies accepted.


You can stop calling me a Holocaust Denier and blatantly lying now.
Nah I concede you are the expert liar. I can't even hold a candle to you. when it comes to lying and twisting the truth!


That's destroying culture and potentially destroying race.
yeah that guy should be in jail for genocide against the asian race!


But one person isn't enough.
Really? So why the 100% white nation then? You are ok with 2 or 3 or 10 or a 100 nonwhites in your country? If you one SINGLE nonwhite your nation is no longer 100% white unless you have a new meaning for 100%.


But Mr. Graf just visited and left.
I thought you aid he LIVED there for a few years. That implies more than just a "visit".  


But he didn't mix with Mongoloids
But he COULD have.


I assume you mean that because "Asian"
I have the right to call them Asian if I want to as you have the right to call them the way you like. I have MORE right to call them the way I want since I am part Asian and you are not.


Obviously not.
Oh good so nonwhites can live at your white nation for a few years then right?


You read my posts and forget the details and only the main ideas and fill in your own, INCORRECT details.
Practially ALL your details are either USELESS or INCORRECT.


Oh god you ignored the question AGAIN Jakelong.
There was a question?


And you get pissy at ME for supposedly doing that.
I don't get pissy at you I just piss on your posts. Don't confuse the two.


Alright - if someone had a job with an office, and they were White - and they put up a picture of the Klan on their wall for everyone to see, would they get fired?
If the klan guy was hooded or a KNOWN klan member he might be in trouble if the owner doesn't like that. In an office privately owned the boss has pretty much the right to forbid whatever he doesn't like in his office.

Try putting a poster of Che guevara or Fidel Castro  on an office wall and tell me what happens. No even try to put a picture of the Pope on an office wall and chances are you will be told to put it down unless you're in your own cubicle and no one sees you maybe. Pretty much the only stuff really allowed in offices are family pics and maybe comic strips that are not offensive,

But unless you break the company rules (and they might have somethng about you can put in your office and what you can't) they can't fire you or if they do there are laws that apply.

Check this link

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You have to look at it both ways. I'm speaking of ADULTS - so you must speak of ADULTS.
You are? I thought you were a TEEN! This is a TEEN FORUM remember?


Obviously not because I'm not 18 or older.
So you talking out of your ass? oh ok.


1st, you don't know what "Whining" really is
Its what you do best.


I know plenty of publically "Racist" people that have/had death threats thrown at them and if the same percentage of people had that in prison than you'd surely have statistics at hand to prove it.
You are the one who STARTED the claim that it was EASIER for ppl in jail. I still haven't seen any PROOF of that.


We're not talking about them.
Why not? ANYONE who does something PUBLICLY or gets out there and make claims about themselves about something thats not pupular OFTEN has death threats. Don't think its just your poor little racist whiners.

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Just as I said you're a coward without the courage of your convictions.
It's not about me - it's about protecting my family.
A real man would understand.


I thought you were the expert on that twist.
You must've beaten me than.


What claims? You made Claims too and did not prove ANY of them.
I don't ask you to back the other side up.
But you did fail to answer my questions :D

And you have to prove the following:
That I'm racist.
That I'm a neo-Nazi.
That I'm Homosexual.


I already did. In fact ALL your posts prove it. You don't even have the balls to admit you racist. what a loser.
You do it AGAIN.
You say you have proven that I'm racist - but you NEVER did!
And, again, you say me posts prove it - but they are NEVER sufficient evidence.

You don't even have the balls to admit it!
What a loser!


Calling the Holocaust a hoax is NOT a denial of the Holocaust? Thats a new twist.
I didn't call it a hoax.
I called it the Holohoax.
It's full of hoaxes.
But not a hoax itself.

If it's too difficult for you to understand - just ignore it.


Nah I concede you are the expert liar. I can't even hold a candle to you. when it comes to lying and twisting the truth!  
Oh, don't drop your candle!


yeah that guy should be in jail for genocide against the asian race!  
Did he mix with them?
Did he bring his culture in and practice it outside of his home?

The answers are - no.

It's called assimilation.

It can happen with a few people - but not when thousands flock to a new place.


Really? So why the 100% white nation then? You are ok with 2 or 3 or 10 or a 100 nonwhites in your country? If you one SINGLE nonwhite your nation is no longer 100% white unless you have a new meaning for 100%.
NonWhites would be allowed to visit and I guess "Live" in the hotels.

But they wouldn't be citizens.
It's not like Graf was really much of an influence.

I think he was just living there and writing a book or something.


I thought you aid he LIVED there for a few years. That implies more than just a "visit".  
He says
I spent six years there in East Asia.
He was in Taiwan.

So he says he SPENT six years there - but not "Lived" there.
He originally fled to Iran to escape holocaust "Denial" laws but he ended up in Eastern Asia.


But he COULD have.
Did he?
Or did he leave?
Do you think he actually thought about staying there?


I have the right to call them Asian if I want to as you have the right to call them the way you like. I have MORE right to call them the way I want since I am part Asian and you are not.
But there are many races of Asia.
So "Asian" can also be someone from India, the Middle East, etc.


Oh good so nonwhites can live at your white nation for a few years then right?
I guess for an extended visit...
But they wouldn't be able to mix with the people there, as he didn't mix.

Remember - Graf isn't a White Nationalist.

He was also fleeing any place that would put him back in Switzerland (Who supposedly had freedom of speech) for Holocaust "Denial" when he never denied the Holocaust.


Practially ALL your details are either USELESS or INCORRECT.
Good one.
What about the ones when I'm talking about myself?
You ignore them and make your own faulty assumptions.


There was a question?
Yes.
You ignored it about 5 times.

But I see you FINALLY answered it.


I don't get pissy at you I just piss on your posts. Don't confuse the two.  
So hostile :D


If the klan guy was hooded or a KNOWN klan member he might be in trouble if the owner doesn't like that. In an office privately owned the boss has pretty much the right to forbid whatever he doesn't like in his office.
He had the hood on and a lighted cross - and everyone that walks in could see it.


Try putting a poster of Che guevara or Fidel Castro  on an office wall and tell me what happens. No even try to put a picture of the Pope on an office wall and chances are you will be told to put it down unless you're in your own cubicle and no one sees you maybe. Pretty much the only stuff really allowed in offices are family pics and maybe comic strips that are not offensive,
People at my old school had Che shirts.
They didn't get in any trouble.

If I had a KKK shirt I would've been suspended.


But unless you break the  company rules (and they might have somethng about you can put in your office and what you can't) they can't fire you or if they do there are laws that apply.

Check this link

http://tinyurl.com/9ajvlm


Alright.
If you were a boss.
Would you allow it if someone did it, technically not breaking any rules?


You are? I thought you were a TEEN! This is a TEEN FORUM remember?
I am a teen.
But we're speaking of adults.


So you talking out of your ass? oh ok.
I've spoken to adult criminals - and more than one, unlike you.


Its what you do best.
Good job - your sentence makes absolutely no sense.


You are the one who STARTED the claim that it was EASIER for ppl in jail. I still haven't seen any PROOF of that.
Public Holocaust revisionists are proof of it.
Their lives are more hectic and their families are at more of a risk than the average adult criminal.

The fact that you don't have any statistics for how many criminals have death threats directed towards their families is because it's not a significantly large amount.

Poor little Jewish David Cole went into hiding and continues to hide because some evil Zionist Jew threatened his life.


Why not? ANYONE who does something PUBLICLY or gets out there and make claims about themselves about something thats not pupular OFTEN has death threats. Don't think its just your poor little racist whiners.
Because we're speaking of people in jail and people publicly considered racist.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:05 pm on Jan. 2, 2009

It's not about me - it's about protecting my family.
What family? You got kids arlready?

 


You must've beaten me than.
 Nah I wouldn't n't beat you. You would already fall apart in fear if I just raise my hand to comb my hair!


That I'm racist.  
All your beliefs demnstrate your racism:

- your beliefs that everything is explained by race  
- your obsession with "proving" that blacks have lower IQs, have not invented much, have not contributed much, should only be in the US as slaves, shouldn't mix with whites,
- your views on native americans, latinos, hispanics, asians and the way you keep trying to name with 19th century racialist outdated inaccurate termnilogies
- your views on jews and trying to label them so that you can deny that they are whites
- your approval and defense of nazi racial laws  
- your approval and defense of the Klan

That enough for you? And no don't try to re-justify again all that bullcrap to me I already heard it 10 times from you. What I want to hear is how all that is NOT racist.  

Give me some PRECISE reason why you think all that is not racis not some wimp answer like "well it isn't!" That's not good enough.  

Show me what YOU think racism really is and some examples of racism according to YOU and HOW what you belive/think/defend is NOT racist.

Fact is you still didn't answer a similar question I made on HOW you version of Nazism is different from old Nazism.  

Maybe because you're pretty much incapable of backing up your own beliefs.


 That I'm a neo-Nazi.  
You said you are not an old Nazi. So you must be new Nazi or an "almost" Nazis. QED

oh and iin case you got trouble looking that up:


ne⋅o-Na⋅zi   -noun, plural -zis. (since 1945) a person who belongs to a political organization whose beliefs are inspired by or reminiscent of Nazism  



That I'm Homosexual.
 lol that one sure gets to you. I guess I can't tell who's in your bed right now but I bet you like guys more than girls.  


You do it AGAIN.  
Don't you love it?


 I didn't call it a hoax.  
I called it the Holohoax.  
It's full of hoaxes.  
But not a hoax itself.

You can tell that from the word "holohoax"??? wowtalk about reading alot into it.  


If it's too difficult for you to understand - just ignore it.
Let's find out shall we?


Holocaust denial (commonly called Holocaust revisionism by its supporters[1]) is the belief that the genocide of Jews and other minority groups during World War II — the Holocaust — either did not occur, or did not occur to the extent described by current scholarship.
BOTH ideas are found under "holohoax" In absence of more info I can assume either applies.  

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Holohoax
Too bad you lost.


 Oh, don't drop your candle!
 Why? Afraid of burning to death in a holocaust?

(you really suck at comebacks btw)


 Did he mix with them?
 He lived there that's enough you said it yourself.  

Or are you saying that nonwhites are allowed to live in your white nation so long as they don't mix?


Did he bring his culture in and practice it outside of his home?
 Yes he DEFINITELY did. He taught German at the University of Taipei.  

http://www.ziopedia.org/articles/holocaust/70/
(In a blatantly antizionist site no less)

I doubt he could do that without teaching those kids German culture and German lit and German music.  (If he didn't he's a pretty bad teacher but I'd give the benefit of the doubt on that. )

Not that I have anything against that myself but apprarenly you find that horrible. Oh wait maybe its NOT horible to you ONLY when whites teach white culture to nonwhites, Riiiight....


It's called assimilation.
 So you cool with your Spanish teachers and you agree they are assimilated? Good!


It can happen with a few people - but not when thousands flock to a new place.  
Ok but then why have a 100% white nation then?  All you need is 80% white with controls on immigration  if you really want


NonWhites would be allowed to visit and I guess "Live" in the hotels.  
Graf lived in a home not just a hotel.  


But they wouldn't be citizens.  
It's not like Graf was really much of an influence.  

Teaching German at a University he had NO influence? Sure...I guess you agree then that teachers of Spanish at our universities have no influence then.


I think he was just living there and writing a book or something.
yep you don't know shit. talking out of your ass as usual. Not even capable of doing a 5 min internet research on somebody you bring up.  

Pathetic.

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What family? You got kids arlready?
I have parents and siblings.
They aren't my family?


Nah I wouldn't n't beat you. You would already fall apart in fear if I just raise my hand to comb my hair!
Sure.


All your beliefs demnstrate your racism:
Funny, I already see some lies in your claims!


- your beliefs that everything is explained by race  
No, I don't believe that.
Some can be explained by it.
But not all.


- your obsession with "proving" that blacks have lower IQs, have not invented much, have not contributed much, should only be in the US as slaves, shouldn't mix with whites,
I'm not obsessed - and I don't think they should be slaves.
I've actually said I am opposed to slavery.
Do you not remember that or do you only remember what you want?


- your views on native americans, latinos, hispanics, asians and the way you keep trying to name with 19th century racialist outdated inaccurate termnilogies
I love how people say "Your views" - it doesn't mean anything at all.
I have no racist views.


- your views on jews and trying to label them so that you can deny that they are whites
They say they aren't White themselves!

"You are not Whites--either symbolically or literally--as anyone knows who goes to Israel." - Professor Leonard Fein at speech at 27th biennial congress of the Jewish Board of Deputies in Johannesburg, May 15, 1972.

"Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race, and we are a race." - Rabbi Stephen Wise, N.Y. Herald-Tribune, June 13, 1938.

"Let us recognize that we Jews are a distinct nationality of which every Jew, whatever his country, his station, or shade of belief, is necessarily a member." - Louis Brandeis, U.S. Supreme Ct. Justice, Zionism, page 113.

"You cannot be English Jews. We are a race, and only as a race can we perpetuate. Our mentality is of a Hebraic character, and differs from that of an Englishman. Enough subterfuges! Let us assert openly that we are International Jews." - Gerald Soman, Chairman of the World Jewry Fellowship, in its official manifesto, January 1, 1935.

"Jew and Gentile are two worlds, between you Gentiles and us Jews there lies an unbridgeable gulf...There are two life forces in the world: Jewish and Gentile...I do not believe that this primal difference between Gentile and Jew is reconcilable..." - Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, page 9.

That's just a few.

There was a thing on Youtube (It got deleted) but it was a bunch of Jews when asked "Are you White" they said something similar to "No, I'm Jewish."


That enough for you? And no don't try to re-justify again all that bullcrap to me I already heard it 10 times from you. What I want to hear is how all that is NOT racist.  

Give me some PRECISE reason why you think all that is not racis not some wimp answer like "well it isn't!" That's not good enough.  


Much of it is false or too bland.
And it's only racist if it is hatred towards a race or claiming one race is all around superior to another.


Fact is you still didn't answer a similar question I made on HOW you version of Nazism is different from old Nazism.  
Because you never explained what you think Nazism is.
And I have no version of "Nazism" because Nazism isn't the same as National Socialism.


Maybe because you're pretty much incapable of backing up your own beliefs.
You are incapable of explaining what Nazism is.
So I can tell you what is different.

Because you'll just say everything I put about Nazism is wrong or something.


You said you are not an old Nazi. So you must be new Nazi or an "almost" Nazis. QED

oh and iin case you got trouble looking that up:


I am not a Nazi at all.
And my beliefs aren't inspired by Nazism - but National Socialism.


 lol that one sure gets to you.  I guess I can't tell who's in your bed right now but I bet you like guys more than girls.  
What would give you that idea?


Don't you love it?  
Perhaps.


You can tell that from the word "holohoax"??? wowtalk about reading alot into it.  
You could tell if you asked me.

But you tend to assume instead of ask me.
Why is that?


Let's find out shall we?
{SNIP}
BOTH ideas are found under "holohoax" In absence of more info I can assume either applies.  

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Holohoax
Too bad you lost.



But I do not deny the Holocaust, therefore "Holocaust denial" is literally an incorrect description of my beliefs and a flawed phrase to say the least.

Why are you so opposed to saying "Revisionism" when all I want to do is see a revised history?


 Why? Afraid of burning to death in a holocaust?

(you really suck at comebacks btw)


That wasn't a comeback...
And if you ever put forth a comeback - I didn't notice.
It obviously sucked so bad that I couldn't tell.

Like the majority of your posts.


 He lived there that's enough you said it yourself.  

Or are you saying that nonwhites are allowed to live in your white nation so long as they don't mix?


Under these conditions:
1. You don't expect to find permanent residence (AKA - live there your whole life).
2. You don't expect to create a family.
3. You don't mix with the people living there.
4. You don't ignore the neighboring culture.
5. It is for educational purposes.
6. You don't commit crime.

Did he do any of that?


 Yes he DEFINITELY did. He taught German at the University of Taipei.  

http://www.ziopedia.org/articles/holocaust/70/
(In a blatantly antizionist site no less)

I doubt he could do that without teaching those kids German culture and German lit and German music.  (If he didn't he's a pretty bad teacher but I'd give the benefit of the doubt on that. )

Not that I have anything against that myself but apprarenly you find that horrible. Oh wait maybe its NOT horible to you ONLY when whites teach white culture to nonwhites, Riiiight....


What's wrong with teaching a language?

If he brought his culture and shoved it in their face that's one thing.
But if he has a class that people CHOOSE to visit it's different.

And how many kids did he have in Taiwan?
How many times did he get married?
Did he permanently live there?


 So you cool with your Spanish teachers and you agree they are assimilated? Good!  
The Spanish teacher I had was bad at English and did not culturally assimilate.
She came from Puerto Rico THAT YEAR that she taught.


Ok but then why have a 100% white nation then?  All you need is 80% white with controls on immigration  if you really want
Why not have a 100% White nation?

If one out of five of the people in the nation are of a different race and culture it's not going to be helpful for the preservation of Whites and their culture.

One person is different than thousands.
If Graf and 100's of his European buddies went to Taipei in their own little community that would be one thing....


Graf lived in a home not just a hotel.  
But he was an educational influence.
Why are you comparing him?

He is not a WN!

Holocaust revision has nothing to do with Whites or NSism or WNism at all!


Teaching German at a University he had NO influence? Sure...I guess you agree then that teachers of Spanish at our universities have no influence then.
There's nothing wrong with Spanish teachers teaching Spanish at universities.

Because you CHOOSE that class.
You CHOOSE if you want it.

But they should only stay for that educational reason.


yep you don't know shit. talking out of your ass as usual. Not even capable of doing a 5 min internet research on somebody you bring up.  

Pathetic.


Actually.
He WAS writing his second book that whole time.

Good job Jakey, YOU are pathetic.

So what if he was a teacher?

ONE person doesn't influence culture or race.

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